01-30-2013, 10:13 AM
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I will look into what was mentioned above but after a little research I'm also wondering about Wayne, Narberth, Gladwyne, Ardmore, or Bryn Mawr?
I wouldn't rush to recommend those areas to a hippie from the south who is looking for fun and diversity. The towns you mentioned are in the main line so a lot of money and some snootiness. Good safety and city access though. Maybe the in-town parts of Bryn Mawr, Ardmore or Narberth where you would get a little more diversity.
New Hope is the first town that came to mind when you mentioned your mom is a hippie. It is a little distant from Center City though.
01-30-2013, 01:24 PM
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Thanks everyone! She is nervous about Center City, though I think she'd grow to love it. I'm driving her around there this weekend so she can see it, but I think she's better suited to a smaller place with access to Philly proper. She's choosing Philly somewhat at random but also because I'm likely relocating there for a job within the next year (I personally will be in Center City). She's wants to be in a diverse place (and I don't just mean racial diversity)-- she's somewhat of a hippie and looking for someplace fun after yeeeaaaarss of living in the middle of nowhere in the south. She's keeping a car but as long as there's street parking it's okay. No, she will not be looking for a job.
I will look into what was mentioned above but after a little research I'm also wondering about Wayne, Narberth, Gladwyne, Ardmore, or Bryn Mawr?
If your mother wants a fun diverse area, there will be no better option than Center City and surrounding core neighborhoods of the city. You will find that a TON of empty nesters move to the city. She will have a lot of people to converse with who are in the same situation as her. If she wants more of a small town feel but still inside the city, may I suggest the Northwest section of the city? Primarily Chestnut Hill, West Mt. Airy and East Falls? These areas a gorgeous, act and feel as small towns but are actually WITHIN the city limits. Also, the SEPTA Regional Rail serves this section of the city fairly well and you can reach Center City from this section of the city in approx 20 minutes via train and visa versa.
If your mother wants a diverse experience where she will meet, and interact with other people in a similar situation as her, where she can meet new people and go out and do things of interest, there really is no substitution for the city. It will be a complete change and a culture shock for sure, no doubt about that, but what is life without a little fun?
IMO, living in the suburbs won't offer much in the way of meeting new people and new friends to go out to dinner with, or go to the museum with or go to the theater with, etc. etc.
01-30-2013, 02:07 PM
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One thing you may want to suggest to her is to rent for a year so that she can both get more acclimated to Philadelphia and city living. It would give her much more of an opportunity to figure out which parts of the area she perfers and whether living in Cetner City or an adjacent neighborhood might appeal to her without having to jump into the deep end of the pool immediately. Given her budget for purchasing, she should be able to find a three bedroom house to rent without much difficulty.
As far as the suburban areas you mentioned are concerned, Narberth, and Ardmore are probably your best bets. You might want to consider Bala as well. Within the City, Center City aside, the Northwest part of the city is a good option. A couple other areas you might condsier are Spruce Hill, just west of the Penn campus, and possibly Fox Chase. Spruce Hill though less dense than Center City may still be too dense for your mom's taste at the moment, but I think it would appeal to her hippie sensibilites. Fox Chase has good transportation into CC and is urban but is still leafy. I'm not sure if it would be diverse or hippie enough for her, but it's probably worth a look.
01-30-2013, 03:00 PM
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I've read over other threads but would love some input from someone who knows the area on the specifics I'm looking for!
My mom (newly divorced and in her 50s) is moving to Philadelphia. She wants to buy a 3 BR rowhouse (or maybe a condo) for under $300K. Schools, etc. not important anymore, but she'd love somewhere with trees, a nice downtown, and a little "character" if that makes sense? GENERAL safety, rather than "just be on guard" safety is important because she's lived her entire life in the middle of nowhere so I'm not sure she'd know what that means
Proximity to Center City is also nice.
I really appreciate any help! Thanks!
I'm slightly older than your mom & also, more or less, of the hippie persuasion. She should look at Chestnut Hill & Collingswood & plan to keep her car.
01-30-2013, 05:00 PM
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I wouldn't rush to recommend those areas to a hippie from the south who is looking for fun and diversity. The towns you mentioned are in the main line so a lot of money and some snootiness. Good safety and city access though. Maybe the in-town parts of Bryn Mawr, Ardmore or Narberth where you would get a little more diversity.
New Hope is the first town that came to mind when you mentioned your mom is a hippie. It is a little distant from Center City though.
I think Bryn Mawr, Ardmore, or Narberth could be very good fits. Most other parts of the Main Line are far more family-oriented (and out of her price range anyway). Though to echo other posters' suggestions, I think Chestnut Hill/Mt. Airy would be the best fits for someone who's middle-aged, fun-loving, and concerned about safety. Collingswood or Westmont wouldn't be bad either.
01-30-2013, 05:31 PM
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I think Bryn Mawr, Ardmore, or Narberth could be very good fits. Most other parts of the Main Line are far more family-oriented (and out of her price range anyway). Though to echo other posters' suggestions, I think Chestnut Hill/Mt. Airy would be the best fits for someone who's middle-aged, fun-loving, and concerned about safety. Collingswood or Westmont wouldn't be bad either.
Collingswood has a few row houses. Haddonfield has a few, too, but I have no clue what the price would be. I have a friend who has a twin in Chestnut Hill.
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01-30-2013, 05:50 PM
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punched up Collingswood. $155k for a nice twin...
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180k for this gem..
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01-30-2013, 05:52 PM
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Or for $239k you can get this!! LOTS more home for the buck then in the city people..
Home on Dayton Avenue in Collingswood
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01-31-2013, 08:25 AM
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One thing you may want to suggest to her is to rent for a year so that she can both get more acclimated to Philadelphia and city living. It would give her much more of an opportunity to figure out which parts of the area she perfers and whether living in Cetner City or an adjacent neighborhood might appeal to her without having to jump into the deep end of the pool immediately. Given her budget for purchasing, she should be able to find a three bedroom house to rent without much difficulty.
Excellent idea! Was going to suggest it myself, but you beat me to it.
01-31-2013, 09:45 AM
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If what you are looking for is trees, somewhere with character, close to Center City, off street parking, diverse, safe, under 300k than there is no better option than Chestnut Hill, Mount Airy, East Falls, Wissahickon, West Germantown IMO.
There are other great areas much closer to CC but she may want more trees and parking than what will be available in Fairmount, Queen Village, Spruce Hill/Clark Park, etc. These may also be too urban for someone moving from the middle of nowhere and probably limited options for under 300k.
Neighborhoods in the NW all have downtowns of their own, with Manayunk and Chestnut Hill being the most established. I am not at all familiar with New Jersey suburbs so I won't comment but I think you will have trouble finding what you want in The Mainline towns for under 300k.
Renting is great for many people but IMO it is not worth it in Philly if you can afford to buy something. The real estate market here is not thriving but it has been stable for a long time, especially in Northwest Philly. Neighborhoods like Chestnut Hill, Mount Airy, Germantown are also great rental markets so your mom would have no trouble renting out her house (and for a lot more than the mortgage; rents in The NW seem disproportianately high in relation to the cost of owning).
Here's some examples of houses in great areas under 300K.
Close to "Downtown Mount Airy"
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Close to "Downtown Chestnut Hill"
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There are also plenty of great houses in Roxborough/Wissahickon (19128) and East Falls (19129).
Germantown has great areas and is a great value but a lot of it borders some sketchy areas. Granted the sketchy areas are improving daily and Germantown also borders The Wissahickon Park, Mount Airy and East Falls
This house is beautiful and I know much bigger than what your Mom wants, but just pointing out the type house you can get in Germantown:
7 Bedrooms 5,000+ Square Foot Victorian for under 300K. And yes, the area is safe.
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Some others in Germantown
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Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)