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View Poll Results: Is Taylor Swift the most famous person to ever come from the Philly area?
Yes 13 17.11%
No 63 82.89%
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-22-2023, 03:36 PM
 
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Saying "Philly" is lower class? OK....

The only place I write Philly I here on CD.
In conversation in "real life" -- at work, or with strangers I always say Philadelphia.

Guess I'm projecting a lower class life here on CD.

Not that I have to say the word that often anyway.
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Old 09-22-2023, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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I could understand if she had grown up in Cherry Hill, attended college in Philly, regularly visited family in south Philly, went to Eagles/Phillies games, and hung out with friends in CC, but that's not the case. She grew up in TN... Her sole affiliation with Philly comes from an arbitrary MSA boundary making her from the area.

I'm not sure why you're trying to force Taylor into being some type of Philly icon.
She wasn't born and raised in Tennessee. She was born and raised in the Philly area and she's already acknowledge she grew up in this area.
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Old 09-22-2023, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Reading and Berks County is not the Philadelphia area.
Lancaster County is not in the Philadelphia CSA.

Nor is the Lehigh Valley.

Berks County, OTOH, is.
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Old 09-22-2023, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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You can get Channel 6 all the way up in the Poconos and that's way out from the MSA or CSA.

Honestly, IMO the MSA needs to be updated; it excludes Trenton which has an actual line connecting to the city but includes Cecilton MD, which has Royal Farms, Food Lion and receives Baltimore news stations.
The Office of Management and Budget uses commuting patterns to determine what counties are in MSAs and which MSAs or µSAs ("micropolitan statistical areas" — economic areas with a core city of fewer than 50,000 inhabitants) belong in a CSA. Given that you can get to Exton sooner from Reading than from Center City Philadelphia, there is quite likely non-trivial commuting between the first two places.

Trenton got moved from the Philadelphia CSA to the New York one in the 1990s. The growth of employment centers in the Princeton area that attract Middlesex County residents probably accounts for the shift. Mercer County remains in Philadelphia's media market.

Cecil County, MD, is in Philadelphia's CSA because there's significant commuting between it and New Castle County, Del., which is in the Philadelphia MSA. That makes it just like Mercer County, NJ, because it is indeed in Baltimore's DMA ("designated market area" – media market). Food Lion remains a delineator, but there's a Royal Farms on Aramingo Avenue in Port Richmond, and Phillymag actually gave the chain a Best of Philly ("Best Gas Station Fried Chicken") back in 2015 or thereabouts.
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Old 09-22-2023, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Even if Taylor was from Philly...

As a musical act...Hall and Oates were Philly area boys who had a 20 year run very much like the one she is on right now.

Todd Rundgren is considered one of the greatest musical geniuses of the last half of the 20th century by those who are music afficionados... despite the fact that most people only know him by the first song he ever wrote as a 17 year old... "Hello It's Me".
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Old 09-22-2023, 05:21 PM
 
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Nothing against Hall and Oates but they do not even come close to the popularity of Taylor Swift. Musically, I don't think any "Philadelphian" does, not Boyz II Men, Patti Labelle, Hall & Oates, Pink or whoever. They aren't even in the same league. I am not speaking of the quality of anything, that is entirely subjective. Taylor Swift has been smashing records for 15 years now.
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Old 09-22-2023, 06:05 PM
 
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There is nothing wrong with being known as the most famous person to ever come from the Reading area, which Swift obviously is.

The funny part about this entire debate, is that unless you are into her life story, I would imagine a good chuck of people out there, believe she was born and raised in the Nashville area!
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Old 09-22-2023, 06:33 PM
 
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That was my point as well from earlier. She is super famous, and from Reading, but she is not famously from Reading the way say Springsteen is from Jersey or Eminem is from Detroit or Nirvana is from Seattle to name a few.
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Old 09-22-2023, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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Wow. That the perceived 'fame' of celebrities - in this case Taylor Swift - influences SO MANY of you borders on the glorification of said celebrity. Do any of the participants in this thread actually have any talents of their own?

glorification: the act of describing something in a way that makes it seem better or more important than it really is.
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Old 09-22-2023, 07:23 PM
 
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There is no such thing as "perceived" fame. If everyone knows who they are, they are famous by definition. I get you are trying to be esoteric and deep, but you come of as pompous and pointless. Bye
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