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Old 07-17-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I don't understand what anti-PC people mean when they say they're anti-PC. Back in the 90s, political correctness was the "people first, description second" sort of language, like "woman of color" or "sight-challenged" instead of blind. Today, people who rail about PC-ness just seem to want to be jerks without being criticized for it. People are going to be offended no matter what you do, but it's not necessary to try to be deliberately offensive.
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I don't approve of racism, but I hate PC people. I think part of our nature is to be bigoted, to some extent. Also, people who claim that there are no norms annoy me. if this is the case, then why do we have structures? Don't structures necessitate norms?
If you hate PC people, how do you feel about something as un-PC as homophobia?
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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I don't understand what anti-PC people mean when they say they're anti-PC. Back in the 90s, political correctness was the "people first, description second" sort of language, like "woman of color" or "sight-challenged" instead of blind. Today, people who rail about PC-ness just seem to want to be jerks without being criticized for it. People are going to be offended no matter what you do, but it's not necessary to try to be deliberately offensive.
So what exactly is offensive about the word "blind"? It's no different than the word "tall," let's say. It describes certain reality about a person that just is.
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Hm.

I don't like PC, either, but the whole idea of 'normal' only exists to make people feel comfortable with labels. People don't like it if things don't fit into predictable labels. That kind of mental and emotional laziness should not be encouraged.

Also, people seem to think majority = normal. And then, since 'normal' has some sort of benign, positive connotation to it, anyone who falls outside the majority gets put down.

But then, think about it from the negative...applying normal to the majority:

It's normal to have credit card debt
It's normal to not have a college degree
It's normal to be obese
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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So what exactly is offensive about the word "blind"? It's no different than the word "tall," let's say. It describes certain reality about a person that just is.
It's not the best example, but I think the thinking was that "blind" emphasizes the disability and like stan said, emphasizes being outside the normal. Saying "sight-challenged" is more of a positive wording, putting the person on a spectrum of vision issues.

I don't use the words "retarded" or "gay" to say something is dumb, because I know people who are offended by that, and I respect that.
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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Saying "sight-challenged" is more of a positive wording, putting the person on a spectrum of vision issues.
Does it change the fact somebody is blind? Didn't think so. If I were blind and was referred to like that, I'd think the speaker is a phony bullshi*tter I'd rather have nothing to do with.
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah. I would say blind, deaf, black, asian, dwarf...

That whole pc double-speak 'blah-blah-challenged' is condescending and ridiculous.

And african-american? Asian-american? How about we're all just americans?
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Definition of Bigotry as linked above:
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

Expect it back if this is what you give to other people.
And don't whine about it, ok.
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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If you hate PC people, how do you feel about something as un-PC as homophobia?
I think people hold a right to be so, it's a free country.
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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To the OP:

Definition of Bigotry as linked above:
stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

Expect it back if this is what you give to other people.
And don't whine about it, ok.
I don't understand. I think that Western society accepts that any opinion is acceptable.
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