Free will does exist, but perhaps we're too mentally lazy to even use it to our fullest extent (nature, self)

[Luciano700]

You could say being decisive in of itself is a byproduct of free will, if free will didn't exist how does one explain self descipline and doing things grudgingly?


Now perhaps we on average are just not desciplined enough to use our free will to our fullest, we are slaves to impulses, hedonistic desires and emotional reactions, perhaps this is where the arguement of free will being an illusion comes into play, let's not forget our brains being on autopilot, rather than actually doing things with full attention to detail

By this same logic self responsibility does not exist since everything has been determined by a previous action that led to something.


To give an example of free will in action


First, the creation of this thread, because I thought it would be too much work to put it in, but I still did it anyway


Then about like 20 minutes ago decided to take out the trash of our bathroom upstairs, even though I innately didn't feel like it, but it was something that still had to be done nonetheless


But yeah nonetheless, I feel once again we just don't use our free will to our fullest extent. We like living off of autopilot mode, so we let our brains do the work, rather than use being more mindful of our brains

[elyn02]

Based on the examples you gave, what would free will used to the fullest extent look like?

[Luciano700]

Originally Posted by elyn02

Based on the examples you gave, what would free will used to the fullest extent look like?

Willingly doing something?

[elyn02]

Originally Posted by Luciano700

Willingly doing something?

As opposed to grudgingly doing something?

[Lodestar]

I'd be more apt to argue that people resist free will because of their social nature and the fear of stepping into the void alone.

[Luciano700]

Originally Posted by elyn02

As opposed to grudgingly doing something?

Intention is what's behind it

[zentropa]

Those are not examples of free will.

[Avondalist]

The universe is deterministic, however no one knows what the future holds. So free will is effectively real if not actually real.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by elyn02

Based on the examples you gave, what would free will used to the fullest extent look like?

Originally Posted by Luciano700

Willingly doing something?

That one does something willingly or grudgingly (i.e. how) does not alter the why relative to free will.

Originally Posted by Luciano700

But yeah nonetheless, I feel once again we just don't use our free will to our fullest extent.

I’m not clear as to what you mean by ‘using’ our free will to ‘the fullest extent’, despite your response to another poster.

Originally Posted by Luciano700

Free will does exist, but perhaps we're too mentally lazy to even use it to our fullest extent

Lazy is a (deep-seated) habit - or a matter of not being being mentally fit. How is it relevant to ‘free will’?

[artillery77]

Free will and sloth are not conducive with one another. People tend to pick one or the other as their virtue.