Expansive clay soils......BEWARE! (MAP INCLUDED) (Tempe: health insurance, lawyers, unemployed)

[PhoenixAirConcerns]

Kim,

The evidence coincides with what my coworkers and I see on a frequent basis. I want to believe the best, but evidence suggests otherwise. I agree it is important to keep a wary eye out.

[Finger Laker]

What evidence?

[PheenixJobless]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAirConcerns

Kim,

The evidence coincides with what my coworkers and I see on a frequent basis. I want to believe the best, but evidence suggests otherwise. I agree it is important to keep a wary eye out.

This is what we have seen too. Everyone in the process is so intent on getting the deal done, that the interests of the buyer are very underrepresented. It's no wonder so many buyers have troubles with foundations, cracks, etc. and it goes "unnoticed" by an inspector recommended by someone on the inside.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAirConcerns

Kim,

The evidence coincides with what my coworkers and I see on a frequent basis. I want to believe the best, but evidence suggests otherwise. I agree it is important to keep a wary eye out.

Your coworkers in what business? As Finger Laker said, let's see some real evidence,

Originally Posted by PheenixJobless

This is what we have seen too. Everyone in the process is so intent on getting the deal done, that the interests of the buyer are very underrepresented. It's no wonder so many buyers have troubles with foundations, cracks, etc. and it goes "unnoticed" by an inspector recommended by someone on the inside.

Who is "we", and just what exactly have you seen?

I know that the two of you enjoy parroting each other on any number of negative topics, but up to now neither of you have said anything of substance on this issue -- just more conspiracy theories.

[EnicAZ]

Originally Posted by PheenixJobless

This is what we have seen too. Everyone in the process is so intent on getting the deal done, that the interests of the buyer are very underrepresented. It's no wonder so many buyers have troubles with foundations, cracks, etc. and it goes "unnoticed" by an inspector recommended by someone on the inside.

What you are saying has a strong grain of truth to it. This is why every person should reprsent themselves, and only rely on others if legally needed (for example a real estate lawyer). Those who are not legally representative are not fully on your side if there is an conflict of interest in simply getting a deal done.

As far as the soil is concerned, sediment analysis is also a good way to find out what is lying underneath that quickly poured foundation.

[Finger Laker]

Just tons of horrible advise

If you hold yourself out to be an expert all you do is just diminish your potential legal recourse ..... at least with agents, inspectors, etc you could have an E&O claim if you suffer damages due to an error in their fee based work

also, most inspectors aren't there to provide analysis on things outside of their scope ... they are by design fairly basic .... foundations and things of that nature are so specific it's best to hire someone with an expertise in this issue if you want .... from what i've seen they cost a touch less than a normal inspection, but could be worth it to ease your mind

finally, buying a newer home may be in your best interest when it comes to soils ..... at that point you could still have some recourse against either the contractors or property developers for construction defect

[EnicAZ]

Good information in many of these posts. Again the theme I see throughout is to protect yourself legally to the maximum. This may save someone from a huge financial mistake in the future.

[PheenixJobless]

Originally Posted by EnicAZ

What you are saying has a strong grain of truth to it. This is why every person should reprsent themselves, and only rely on others if legally needed (for example a real estate lawyer). Those who are not legally representative are not fully on your side if there is an conflict of interest in simply getting a deal done.

As far as the soil is concerned, sediment analysis is also a good way to find out what is lying underneath that quickly poured foundation.

The lessons learned have been extremely expensive. Future problems often go undetected, so you are right about needing to be extremely cautious. With no one really looking out for you, and everyone just wanting to get paid and have the sale go through, there is a disincentive to have things correctly examined.

[Kimballette]

Originally Posted by PheenixJobless

With no one really looking out for you, and everyone just wanting to get paid and have the sale go through, there is a disincentive to have things correctly examined.

Here's a revolutionary idea - why not educate yourself and look out for yourself? Shocking! Really, all these foolish gloom and doom posts are getting to be a bit much.

[madmmac]

Originally Posted by Kimballette

Here's a revolutionary idea - why not educate yourself and look out for yourself? Shocking! Really, all these foolish gloom and doom posts are getting to be a bit much.

and you know all those cracks are filled with roaches, scorpions, snakes, valley fever, unemployed people, people looking for shade, illegal aliens, extraterrestrial aliens, people who don't like pools and many others.... so they should be pretty well filled in and not cause a problem.