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[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

What is needed - and opposed by the very groups who complain most loudly about illegals - is a biometric national ID. Put the card in the slot, finger on the pad and it is verified instantly. Some see this as intrusion on their sense of liberty. I think that it is something that we just have to live with in this day and age, as unfortunate as that may be.

This is a whole other political can of worms and it's not going to happen anytime soon. There's already a huge lawsuit over something like 23 states refusing to adopt DHS's standards for drivers licenses and it's causing DHS to just keep extending the deadlines. The costs to implement are eye popping and everyone is broke. I have plenty of guaranteed to be effective, but politically impossible, suggestions.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

This is a whole other political can of worms and it's not going to happen anytime soon. There's already a huge lawsuit over something like 23 states refusing to adopt DHS's standards for drivers licenses and it's causing DHS to just keep extending the deadlines. The costs to implement are eye popping and everyone is broke. I have plenty of guaranteed to be effective, but politically impossible, suggestions.

Well there you go. It's always something: political, economic, religious, moral, ethical that gets in the way of a solution. So the problem continues. Our nation seems to be paralyzed in the face of our challenges these days. We have no call to complain if we won't do what needs to be done about the problem.

[Bondurant]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

You make a good point. E-verify is at best a stopgap. We put the burden on employers and then don't give them the tools to do the job properly. What is needed - and opposed by the very groups who complain most loudly about illegals - is a biometric national ID. Put the card in the slot, finger on the pad and it is verified instantly. Some see this as intrusion on their sense of liberty. I think that it is something that we just have to live with in this day and age, as unfortunate as that may be.

BOW & OBEY!!!!

That is scary stuff, dude. No one should support, even reluctantly, something like that.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by Bondurant

BOW & OBEY!!!!

That is scary stuff, dude. No one should support, even reluctantly, something like that.

OK. But then don't complain about employers hiring illegals. Serious problems require serious solutions. I think that is at the heart of it, though. The illegal alien problem is not nearly as serious as people like to say it is. If it were, we would be more open to solutions that might actually work.

[Rick Lee]

It's politically popular to go after employers because it looks like they're making extra money off of cheap labor, while the illegals are just peasants trying to make a better life for themselves. (I don't personally see it that way.) Well, if the employers are using E-Verify and it comes up clean, what the hell else are they supposed to do? When do we start going after the real criminals, the illegals, who know 100% they're here illegally and using bogus docs? As it is, when they're caught, they're arrested and released with a court date. How many ever show up for court? Why would they? They don't have to post a bond and they face no consequences for continuing their illegal behavior. Keep them in jail until we have a full bus to take to the border and toss them over. But that will never happen because ICE and DHS don't want it to.

[observer53]

Take the generalized discussion over to the appropriate subforums in Politics and Other Controversies. Thanks.