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Old 03-27-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: New York city
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Yes. And there was a recent long, now closed thread about this topic. Worth reading.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/phoen...realistic.html

Note that the OP, who adamantly insisted she could make do without a car, maybe using only an electric scooter, has now gotten her driver's license and is buying a car.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/autom...river-not.html
Came back to update. Yes, i got a license in 2 weeks (they give those out to just about anybody, because I was not ready to drive). Bought a car right away, then drove it around side streets in my neighborhood during the day for practice for a couple of weeks. Feel more comf now. Could I live here without a car? yes. I dont even use it every day. But i had to go to the dentist few times and though there are 50 in walking distance I chose 1 few miles away. Same with accountant. Stuff like that. Remember I work from home. Post Office here is really good: they answer the phone, they pick up big packages on time, in general they are nothing like in NYC. I never have to go to the PO since I can generate all labels online. Would I want to live here without a car? Not really. I kinda like having a car now. Its something new to me. But if money was an issue its def doable. I live near Fashion square and I see people walking and at bus stops AOTT.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:42 AM
 
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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Lots of large sunbelt cities are that way. Phoenix, Los Angeles, San Diego, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and others have always been generally vehicle-reliant.

Think about the cities in the midwest and east where people have to stand outside in sub-zero weather, ice, and snow waiting for busses. Phoenix's summertime heat isn't anything to take lightly but all those harsh winter conditions can be hard on people's health too.

When you consider the weather and people's comfort I think a car is necessary just about anywhere in the United States, even suburban areas of Boston, New York City and Chicago are heavily car-dependent.
Portland Oregon comes to mind as a city that could be lived in without a car. Mild weather, excellent public transportation, bike paths all over the place. Most Cities, do to weather would be a pain.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:24 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Portland Oregon comes to mind as a city that could be lived in without a car. Mild weather, excellent public transportation, bike paths all over the place. Most Cities, do to weather would be a pain.
Portland can have some very rainy winters, but you're right in that it has good public transit. I think San Francisco is one of the few cities in the western U.S. where a car might not be needed. They have generally mild weather, aside from the somewhat rainy winters. If you want to talk about weather, San Diego COULD be accessible without a car, but the only thing is that it's very sprawling (much like Phoenix). Only the downtown areas of both Phoenix and San Diego are walkable and not heavily vehicle dependent.
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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Portland can have some very rainy winters, but you're right in that it has good public transit. I think San Francisco is one of the few cities in the western U.S. where a car might not be needed. They have generally mild weather, aside from the somewhat rainy winters. If you want to talk about weather, San Diego COULD be accessible without a car, but the only thing is that it's very sprawling (much like Phoenix). Only the downtown areas of both Phoenix and San Diego are walkable and not heavily vehicle dependent.
Yep, San Fran is a good one, A city I would be afraid of if I HAD a car. Parking in that city is a nightmare. Those hills....OMG. Would only moved there if I got rid of my car.
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