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Old 07-04-2015, 06:27 AM
 
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You wont be worried when you are sitting next to your pool!
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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Grass lawns provide some heat relief and make it a little more bearable to be outdoors in the summertime.

Try walking barefoot across a desert-landscaped yard, or having a picnic or barbecue on a yard of rocks. Green grass makes a world of difference.

Pools and waterparks are even better sources for heat relief, I can't see putting restrictions on those without a huge public backlash.

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Lawns do squat for heat relief, barbecues belong on the patio.


Put some shoes on and you can walk anywhere.
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Old 07-04-2015, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Sorry. Can't help but LMAO at people defending lawns pools sprinklers etc IN THE FLIPPIN' DESERT! Phoenix metro area is not sustainable and is an abomination doomed to collapse. Might take 5 years, might take 5 decades but it ain't natural. Always cracks me up when we go out to some "ancient ruins" site (eg Casa Grande) and the rangers/docents say things like..."No one knows where the people disappeared to all of a sudden one day!" Um, I know where the ones who didn't die in the heat or from the spiders and snakes etc---they went to where there were trees, water, and non-furnace/oven shelter! Not hard to figure out! Left AZ years ago and have never looked back. Phoenix metro is a great example of all that is "wrong" with sub/urban "thinking."
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Sorry. Can't help but LMAO at people defending lawns pools sprinklers etc IN THE FLIPPIN' DESERT! Phoenix metro area is not sustainable and is an abomination doomed to collapse. Might take 5 years, might take 5 decades but it ain't natural. Always cracks me up when we go out to some "ancient ruins" site (eg Casa Grande) and the rangers/docents say things like..."No one knows where the people disappeared to all of a sudden one day!" Um, I know where the ones who didn't die in the heat or from the spiders and snakes etc---they went to where there were trees, water, and non-furnace/oven shelter! Not hard to figure out! Left AZ years ago and have never looked back. Phoenix metro is a great example of all that is "wrong" with sub/urban "thinking."
Welcome to reality. The vast majority of man's activities are "not sustainable". And "ain't natural". Please provide pictures of the cave you live in with no modern conveniences, showing us the shining example of your living conditions so that we can be in awe what true "sustainable" and "natural" living is all about.
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Not talkin' hippie sustainability, talking just plain common sense here. Pray tell--doesn't take much reflection or more than one or two flyovers of that lovely "Valley of the Sun" to see which of these things is not like the others, so to speak. Sorry. That's all the "bait" I'll be taking from my current cave dwelling! EDIT....of course, those ubiquitous fake dyed-aqua-green waterfalls seen at the entrances of so many neighborhoods are completely natural. And the old folks scurrying from airconditioned trailer to clubhouse via golf cart, too....

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Old 07-04-2015, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Not talkin' hippie sustainability, talking just plain common sense here. Pray tell--doesn't take much reflection or more than one or two flyovers of that lovely "Valley of the Sun" to see which of these things is not like the others, so to speak. Sorry. That's all the "bait" I'll be taking from my current cave dwelling! EDIT....of course, those ubiquitous fake dyed-aqua-green waterfalls seen at the entrances of so many neighborhoods are completely natural. And the old folks scurrying from airconditioned trailer to clubhouse via golf cart, too....
And the folks scurrying from heated dwellings in the vast majority of the country burning unsustainable fossil burning resources, cars running on....well, never mind. Enjoy your cave.
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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To each his/her own! Just not my scene---but peace to all y'all whose scene it is!
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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To each his/her own! Just not my scene---but peace to all y'all whose scene it is!
I couldn't have said it better.

Enjoy Alaska. It is a beautiful state.
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Old 07-04-2015, 06:26 PM
 
Location: prescott az
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I like my green lawn and moved here by accident, not knowing that everyone in Ocotillo must have a green front lawn, both summer and winter. It definitely adds to the lakes, the parkways and makes it a more desirable place to live. It's also reclaimed water and costs nothing. I did not know what that was when I bought this house, but I am grateful for it. Rocks and dirt only add to the dust problem here.
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Old 07-04-2015, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Reseda (heart of the SFV)
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This years El Niño will be one for the ages, possibly rivaling the El Nino of 97-98. All strong El Nino's drench California and the Southwest and this event will be no exception. We will look back at this thread in about six months and realize it was nothing but fear and hate mongering has reservoirs have quickly filled to capacity.
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