Living with the heat in Phoenix (Tempe, Wickenburg: closing, dangerous, safety)

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Originally Posted by wit-nit

^^Bolded is incorrect. Read the informational article below.

The Temperature in the Shade Isn’t Cooler than The Temperature in the Sunlight
In the shade, you may feel 10-15 degrees cooler, but the temperature is the exact same as the temperature in full sunlight. Shade only feels cooler because you are avoiding solar radiation. When in the shade, your skin is not being “heated” by the sun’s rays, so your skin and your body feel a more comfortable temperature.
https://ktar.com/story/2692209/windo...han-windows-7/

Good point. I have to keep reminding myself of this actual fact.

[gliu953]

I adapted pretty well to the heat, you can still do things outside and it's better than freezing half the year.
The heat can be bad if you're out in it too long and I wouldn't do any hiking when it's this hot or even go tubing. Plenty of other things to do.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by wit-nit

^^Bolded is incorrect. Read the informational article below.

The Temperature in the Shade Isn’t Cooler than The Temperature in the Sunlight
In the shade, you may feel 10-15 degrees cooler, but the temperature is the exact same as the temperature in full sunlight. Shade only feels cooler because you are avoiding solar radiation. When in the shade, your skin is not being “heated” by the sun’s rays, so your skin and your body feel a more comfortable temperature.
https://ktar.com/story/2692209/windo...han-windows-7/

But then there is this piece stating something else:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...02-column.html

On July 15, 1972, with an air temperature of 128 degrees in Death Valley, Calif., the sun-heated surface soil temperature rose to an incredible 201 degrees.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by Prickly Pear

I think some people are natural to this heat. Someone born and raised should be, but I’m not. I do much better in the cold in comparison to my friends and family. I’ll most likely move at some point because of this. It’s just a matter of finding a good opportunity, and doing it. And I’m sure people who are moving here are thinking the same thing.

Everybody is different. I was born & raised here and didn't mind the heat when I was younger, but now I dread summers to the point where I actually look forward to escaping periodically, especially in July & August. I've heard many other natives & long term residents say the same thing: it becomes monotonous and harder to deal with the longer you're here and the older you get.

Originally Posted by gliu953

I adapted pretty well to the heat, you can still do things outside and it's better than freezing half the year.
The heat can be bad if you're out in it too long and I wouldn't do any hiking when it's this hot or even go tubing. Plenty of other things to do.

The bolded parts above are exactly right. There are better things to do than hiking or laying out & getting sunburned. If that's what certain ones prefer, have at it, but anybody who is crazy enough to hike when it's this hot shouldn't even be rescued if they become disoriented. It's survival of the fittest, and if they're out of shape or unprepared, too bad. The coyotes can have them for their next meal.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

But then there is this piece stating something else:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...02-column.html
On July 15, 1972, with an air temperature of 128 degrees in Death Valley, Calif., the sun-heated surface soil temperature rose to an incredible 201 degrees.

Notice that no one ever says that "it's 201 degrees in Death Valley". Weatherman quote air temperatures. Your body is always hotter when the sun hits it. If you want to experience your body temperature even hotter, then wear a black shirt versus a white shirt while you are standing in the sun. The article you linked is simply saying that the air temperature of a thermometer in the shade is accurate because it isn't absorbing solar energy.

That's not to say that your body won't experience a higher air temperature while standing on a larger tar parking lot (even with a white shirt and under an umbrella for shade) because it will. But the air temp in the shade versus in the sun is considered the same but measuring temps in the sun can skew the result. It's all about the accuracy of the measurement and the need to benchmark the data (consistency).

[locolobo13]

I've been riding my bike to work regularly since 08. You can adapt. Pay attention to the signs.

Start small and build. Those of you going to the gym should be doing the same.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...e/art-20048167

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Study heat transfer by: Convection, Conduction, Radiation

I started to, well, because, it's Arizona, and these things are good to know!

[Jnvlv247]

Went golfing at Eagle Mountain in FH Saturday. Started around 9:45 and ended at 2:30pm. They had a full schedule and it wasn't so bad. The wind felt nice when you were driving the cart around. The heat doesn't seem to stop people from doing much. Plus the prices right now are great before they are hiked up for the busy season.

Rode my bike and it was nice this morning. 83 degrees and quite dry so no sweating like a sauna

[Prickly Pear]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Everybody is different. I was born & raised here and didn't mind the heat when I was younger, but now I dread summers to the point where I actually look forward to escaping periodically, especially in July & August. I've heard many other natives & long term residents say the same thing: it becomes monotonous and harder to deal with the longer you're here and the older you get.

This must be the case for me. As far as cold weather goes, I’m less tolerable when I was little but I’m still good with it now. My old job I was able to stand up to 30 minutes in a refrigerator without a jacket and did ok. Not ideal but, I find that easier to deal with than being along a cook line in a kitchen. I have a condition that makes me cold intolerant too (supposedly).

And as far as hot weather, I’ve never truly enjoyed it like most other natives. It’s something I put up with. Would I say it’s the worst thing on Earth? No, that’s a Mississippi summer. I’ve worked a variety of field jobs and we don’t have the worst. But I definitely did better when I was in high school operating roller coasters in the summer sun than I do now.

[manhattangirl]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

It really wasn't tongue in cheek. If you read the news stories about all the morons who hike on the trails this time of year, you'll see that there are always those who are unprepared & out of shape, and end up having to be rescued, which is a strain on our tax dollars. A good share of these rescues occur on the trails with free access: Camelback Mountain, Piestewa Peak, etc.

I really can't understand why anybody would want to hike here in the summer. For one thing, the nation's 5th largest city certainly has better things to offer than hiking in a preserve. Hiking always has been associated with getting out of the city and into the wide open spaces where the air is cleaner with no crowds to contend with. Some of the best hikes I've been on were in the White Mountains, northern AZ, Colorado, and more recently in Wyoming ... definitely not anywherekjslas in or around Phoenix!

Yes, but, for complex reasons, being in shape does not make your risk significantly lower. Hiking in this heat is bad for anyone. You are right!