Apartment occupancy limits

[carrieann15]

@kate2345 - no one said I wanted to get anyone evicted. I wanted to know the law.

[carrieann15]

@PhureeKeeper - ha ha - Yes, we've had that talk before. I've tried that. What people are not understanding is that I live in a ONE bedroom apartment complex. No 2 or 3 bedrooms. That is why I moved here. And I do have a 27 year old. And when he was younger, I made certain that he used his inside voice - even when I lived in a larger complex - as a courtesy to others. And when he played and was loud, I would take him to the park!

They are below me and when the kids are playing out side of their door, their voices come RIGHT UP into my windows and open door. So I just play really loud music now. ha ha

Thanks!

[fluffythewondercat]

I don’t know the specific Phoenix law. But a rule of thumb followed by many municipalities is 2 people per bedroom plus one. Such as a couple with one child.

You may have to work with headphones on.

[carrieann15]

@Hal Roach

Yes, it's very rude. When my son was younger, I made sure he used his indoor voice. Kids that act like wild animals should be taken to a park! My apartment is my solitude. It's my sanctuary. And I shouldn't have to leave to get my studies done. They should take their kids to the park.

Thank you.

[carrieann15]

@fluffythewondercat

Thank you for this information. I appreciate it. Now I'm just working with my classical music turned up loud. I'm sure it bothers the people next door, but there is nothing else I can do. I'm not trying to get anyone evicted! Just wanted to know what the laws were. I would like to move to another apartment where this doesn't happen. I have a ONE BEDROOM in hopes that this would keep large families from living here. But I guess I was wrong.

Thanks again,
Carrie

[yukon]

PHX is a bit vague on occupancy:

Unreasonable Occupancy Standards:

Arizona law states that a two person per bedroom occupancy limit is presumed to be reasonable. Depending upon the circumstances, however, such a limit may be challenged, and anything less than two persons per bedroom may violate fair housing laws by having an adverse impact against families with children. Also, whatever occupancy standards do exist must be applied consistently.

https://www.phoenix.gov/eod/investig...rd-information

It might be more enforceable if any housing funds are involved:

Affordable units receiving City assistance may not exceed the Housing and Urban Development Department (HUD) maximum rents established annually. (See HOME Unit Fact Sheet)

Note 1: The City of Phoenix maximum occupancy standards allow two persons per sleeping room. Occupancy exceptions will be considered if a family has special circumstances that are justified in writing. Exceptions will not exceed HUD’s Housing Quality Standards (HQS) which allow two persons per living/sleeping room.

Note 2: These above limits apply to all programs administered by the Housing Department, regardless of funding source.

https://www.phoenix.gov/housingsite/...ffordOccup.pdf

[yukon]

Originally Posted by carrieann15

@fluffythewondercat

Thank you for this information. I appreciate it. Now I'm just working with my classical music turned up loud. I'm sure it bothers the people next door, but there is nothing else I can do. I'm not trying to get anyone evicted! Just wanted to know what the laws were. I would like to move to another apartment where this doesn't happen. I have a ONE BEDROOM in hopes that this would keep large families from living here. But I guess I was wrong.

Thanks again,
Carrie

I would report the complex anyway. You have nothing to lose. Cranking up the music too loud could easily result in a different neighbor complaining and getting you tossed out.