Covid virus in phoenix (Yuma, Nogales: shopping center, transport, backyards)

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

So Gov Ducey has now given his latest presser. He says let her rip, that is what the shutdown was all about - to prepare for the scenario of cases spiraling ever upward that is now unfolding. No matter the needless deaths and suffering, we will push it until the health care system is near collapse. He can't even bring himself to put out a mask directive.

The dude is useless. He’s termed out so I don’t really understand why he continues to play politics over protecting us.

[JGMotorsport64]

That presser was alarming. All he can say is there’s capacity. As if the concern is capacity and not, ya know, widespread sickness and death. He didn’t even touch on the staff. I’m married to one that has COVID right now because the hospitals are overrun and low on supplies again.

He also kept blowing off the fact that he’s preempting local governments from doing anything about it

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

That presser was alarming. All he can say is there’s capacity. As if the concern is capacity and not, ya know, widespread sickness and death. He didn’t even touch on the staff. I’m married to one that has COVID right now because the hospitals are overrun and low on supplies again.

He also kept blowing off the fact that he’s preempting local governments from doing anything about it

Good point on the PPE. I have a relative who is working with COVIDs as well and reports that PPE is better than it was but is not being restocked at the rate they are now going through it as more and more patients come in. And they still are cutting down on its use to levels that would have been medical malpractice a few months ago. It boggles the mind that 6 months later now, we still do not have enough to treat disposable medical PPE as disposable.

[move4ward]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

The emergency plan is pretty much along the line of what New York did - doubling and tripling the number of beds in existing hospitals, putting people in the hallways, opening field hospitals in large facilities. No mention of where the staff for these will come from or the terrible effects on health care workers who have to deal with it.

The travel nurses in NY are looking for their next contract, after the decline in hospital beds. These medical staffing companies may be part of the surge plans for Arizona hospitals. Some travel nurses may not take another contract. The PPE shortage in NYC may have scared them. They won't be back until the PPE shortage is resolved.

[AZSunDevil83]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Secondly, a vaccine is a real possibility so there is a real chance that we are not all "bound to get it at some point or another". You're right about one thing though; it won't go away like magic. I don't think that's been anyone's claim though.

Well, most people with an ounce of smarts wouldn't make dumbfounded claims like that but unfortunately, the orange idiot in the WH did...

“Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.” 2/10/2020

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by AZSunDevil83

Well, most people with an ounce of smarts wouldn't make dumbfounded claims like that but unfortunately, the orange idiot in the WH did...

“Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.” 2/10/2020

Haha, you’re right! I guess one person did claim that and apparently people were stupid enough to take him seriously.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Haha, you’re right! I guess one person did claim that and apparently people were stupid enough to take him seriously.

It's not only Trump. You might recall that some posters here actually made claims that our warmer climate would act as a deterrent to the virus ... and others claimed that our mostly suburban, detatched way of life would be a safeguard compared to dense places like NYC. So far this month, we have seen enough data to prove that those claims are nothing but complete b.s.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by john3232

I too was surprised the heat hasn't helped. I thought the numbers would drop in AZ now that summer has arrived.

And yeah, I don't think the people will stand for another mandated lock-down. Not with massive protests being allowed throughout the country.

Best you can do is be careful yourself.

You shouldn't be surprised, heat didn't slow it down in Brazil or Australia.

[asufan]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

It's not only Trump. You might recall that some posters here actually made claims that our warmer climate would act as a deterrent to the virus ... and others claimed that our mostly suburban, detatched way of life would be a safeguard compared to dense places like NYC. So far this month, we have seen enough data to prove that those claims are nothing but complete b.s.

Nah the suburban thing actually helps slow the spread. It doesn't completely stop it, especially when you have people riding packed buses to the recently impacted Mexico and bringing it to their overcrowded houses in Yuma, San Luis and Maryvale (the areas that recently spiked). You'd have to be an idiot to think being spread out from others doesn't help

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by asufan

Nah the suburban thing actually helps slow the spread. It doesn't completely stop it, especially when you have people riding packed buses to the recently impacted Mexico and bringing it to their overcrowded houses in Yuma, San Luis and Maryvale (the areas that recently spiked). You'd have to be an idiot to think being spread out from others doesn't help

We wouldn’t be leading the country if suburban living slowed the spread