Phoenix water on KJZZ (Casa Grande: home, buying, agriculture)

[Voebe]

In case it's of interest - and it's something we'll all have to be thinking about in the coming years - this was on NPR/KJZZ Here & Now.


Phoenix pours $280 million into pipeline to prepare for less water from parched Colorado River

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021...ought-pipeline

I wonder if it will hit a point where people will be penalized for having lawns. Or pools. Or fountains.

[timothyaw]

Las Vegas is seriously looking to cut down on water usage:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...ments-2498016/


They already have ban that's set to start in 2026 that no longer allows grass in median's and commercial areas.

[phx1205]

This is a really good resource on the water situation - https://morrisoninstitute.asu.edu/arizona-curve-project

[locolife]

Originally Posted by Voebe

In case it's of interest - and it's something we'll all have to be thinking about in the coming years - this was on NPR/KJZZ Here & Now.


Phoenix pours $280 million into pipeline to prepare for less water from parched Colorado River

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2021...ought-pipeline
I wonder if it will hit a point where people will be penalized for having lawns. Or pools. Or fountains.

I think this is a ways off still, reason being agriculture still uses 72% of the water in Arizona. Investors know this and have already started buying rural Arizona land with water rights for no other purpose than to sell that water to Phoenix home developers. I see a future where Arizona has far less agriculture.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ts/8655703002/

[locolife]

Originally Posted by timothyaw

Las Vegas is seriously looking to cut down on water usage:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...ments-2498016/


They already have ban that's set to start in 2026 that no longer allows grass in median's and commercial areas.

Apples and oranges, Vegas has a single water source water supply of the Colorado River. Also, Nevada uses 70% of it's water for households. It's also the driest state in the nation, much drier than Arizona which is why the major population center depends nearly entirely on water from out of state.

I'm not saying we shouldn't save water, I personally despise ornamental grass and find a nice desert xeriscape to be much more attractive. We've removed all of our ornamental grass and installed a low water use tree for shade and still have a small patch of grass in the backyard for the dogs.

[gsm113]

Originally Posted by locolife

Apples and oranges, Vegas has a single water source water supply of the Colorado River. Also, Nevada uses 70% of it's water for households. It's also the driest state in the nation, much drier than Arizona which is why the major population center depends nearly entirely on water from out of state.

I'm not saying we shouldn't save water, I personally despise ornamental grass and find a nice desert xeriscape to be much more attractive. We've removed all of our ornamental grass and installed a low water use tree for shade and still have a small patch of grass in the backyard for the dogs.

Just curious if you could share the type of shade tree you planted. Looking for suggestions in my own home.

[timothyaw]

Originally Posted by locolife

Apples and oranges, Vegas has a single water source water supply of the Colorado River. Also, Nevada uses 70% of it's water for households. It's also the driest state in the nation, much drier than Arizona which is why the major population center depends nearly entirely on water from out of state.

I'm not saying we shouldn't save water, I personally despise ornamental grass and find a nice desert xeriscape to be much more attractive. We've removed all of our ornamental grass and installed a low water use tree for shade and still have a small patch of grass in the backyard for the dogs.

I wasn't trying to compare the areas, as you are correct Nevada is the driest state in the country. I was just saying that we need to do more to conserve, focus MORE on that than keeping the status quo.

[JGMotorsport64]

This regions going to have to get more comfortable with effluent (treated). Vegas already sends some down the River as it is.

[goolsbyjazz]

Originally Posted by locolife

Apples and oranges, Vegas has a single water source water supply of the Colorado River. Also, Nevada uses 70% of it's water for households. It's also the driest state in the nation, much drier than Arizona which is why the major population center depends nearly entirely on water from out of state.

I'm not saying we shouldn't save water, I personally despise ornamental grass and find a nice desert xeriscape to be much more attractive. We've removed all of our ornamental grass and installed a low water use tree for shade and still have a small patch of grass in the backyard for the dogs.

I chose the wrong year to grow a lawn. Now I'm rethinking how to do an xeriscape as you did. I love grass, but my environmentally sensitive side says to let it go. With a lack of significant precipitation in these parts the water situation will only get worse. I wonder if that is what hinders more corporate headquarters from locating here?

[locolife]

Originally Posted by goolsbyjazz

I chose the wrong year to grow a lawn. Now I'm rethinking how to do an xeriscape as you did. I love grass, but my environmentally sensitive side says to let it go. With a lack of significant precipitation in these parts the water situation will only get worse. I wonder if that is what hinders more corporate headquarters from locating here?

I had never considered synthetic grass until a family member of mine installed a pretty large amount in his backyard, we walk in our bare feet without worrying about mud, he never deals with broken sprinklers or dead grass in the summer, it can get hot mid-day but even by evening during August it's perfectly fine for walking on. I'm thinking about swapping our small patch for that now, it's just see easy... and seems much more use-able. Maybe another option for you but I'm the same way, I don't mind grass but I really enjoy a nice xeriscaped yard, you can get a lot more color (purple, orange, yellow) and mix of heights. It's just a lot more interesting than a flat, grass lawn.

I don't think it's a hindrance for corporate HQs moving here, I think those decisions are mainly financial and to be honest they really don't move all that much. But look at the recent investments, $20B into the new fab site by intel, $12B+ for TSMC in North Phoenix, Lucid is doubling it's production manufacturing in Casa Grande...