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Old 02-13-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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With all due respect, MrTH, that sounds very anecdotal.
That word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Show me fax.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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Show me fax.
Those are all very broad topics. But here is some interesting material:

//www.city-data.com/forum/pitts...on-trends.html

USATODAY.com

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...eYD4f_yTfcgxaw

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Fil...ne_raphael.pdf

Edit: By the way, portable wireless devices may also be having a relevant impact on lifestyle-preference trends. Again this is much discussed, but here is one link:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/1...-a-smartphone/
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics. At least now I don't have to do the work. Things change, I remember when Wilkinsburg was a vibrant little town, used to work at the bakery there and dropped off film(remember film) at Wonday for the local drugstore in my hometown. I remember when Downtown was jumping with the Rusty Scupper, Happy Landing, Froggy's, and a ton of great joints. Now we are watching Station Square decline somewhat. For all this revitalization to take place we need an influx of young people with good paying jobs, otherwise we are just moving from one hotspot to another.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Lawrenceville, Pittsburgh
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics. At least now I don't have to do the work. Things change, I remember when Wilkinsburg was a vibrant little town, used to work at the bakery there and dropped off film(remember film) at Wonday for the local drugstore in my hometown. I remember when Downtown was jumping with the Rusty Scupper, Happy Landing, Froggy's, and a ton of great joints. Now we are watching Station Square decline somewhat. For all this revitalization to take place we need an influx of young people with good paying jobs, otherwise we are just moving from one hotspot to another.
I'm a young person with a good paying job who moved back. I know a few more.

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Old 02-13-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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Good, get a hold of about 50K more!
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: ɥbɹnqsʇʇıd
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For all this revitalization to take place we need an influx of young people with good paying jobs, otherwise we are just moving from one hotspot to another.
I've had conversations with older folks from the area that spoke about neighborhoods "back in the day". Places like Mt. Oliver were vibrant and bustling while places like the South Side were cluttered and inhospitable. Hell, even in my life time places like Lawrenceville were ghetto and Carrick was a desirable city neighborhood. The city has always seemed to play Whack-A-Mole with one hot neighborhood to the next and I don't think that will change in our lifetimes.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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I'm a young person with a good paying job who moved back. I know a few more.

I too am a young person (is 27 young?) with a good paying job. Took me a slew of crap jobs to get it, but now I have it!

Unfortunately on the flip side I know more of my peers who work at Sheetz, Lowe's, Giant Eagle or are unemployed than I know who make good money. Seems like for every success story there are 4 others feeling the weight of the recession, school loans, stagnant careers, etc.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Umbrosa Regio
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I've had conversations with older folks from the area that spoke about neighborhoods "back in the day". Places like Mt. Oliver were vibrant and bustling while places like the South Side were cluttered and inhospitable. Hell, even in my life time places like Lawrenceville were ghetto and Carrick was a desirable city neighborhood. The city has always seemed to play Whack-A-Mole with one hot neighborhood to the next and I don't think that will change in our lifetimes.
If the population decline has finally ended as speculated and starts to reverse course, we just might see that. But it could still take a while.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:44 PM
 
Location: ɥbɹnqsʇʇıd
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If the population decline has finally ended as speculated and starts to reverse course, we just might see that. But it could still take a while.
Perhaps. Then again I was talking to people in their 80's and they were referring to the city well before the population drop off and the same thing was still occurring.

Plus we'll have to get companies that will actually pay young people well because that is quite the rarity these days.
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