10-23-2012, 12:49 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I am wondering if most women in the South Hills go to the trouble of delivering at Magee (because of reputation?) or just use St Clair Hospital (I know nothing about its reputation)? I am new to the area and do not have an OB yet. My husband and I are just starting to try to get pregnant. We have one child already. I figured I'd choose my OB based on which hospital they are affiliated with and of course if they are in network. I checked my insurance, which is Blue Cross, and they stated that both Magee and St Clair are in network. Also, any recommendations on the dr? I am in Dormont but work in Robinson so anywhere around either is good. Thanks!
10-23-2012, 01:05 PM
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The majority of people that I know delivered at Magee, and I had both of my children there (thought St. Clair is closer). My OB practice is through Magee Womencare Associates and I went to their Bethel Park office. Being affiliated with Magee, of course those doctors deliver at Magee and not a competitor. But for my husband and I, this was a no-brainer. Should anything go wrong, Magee is the place to be. I'm not sure, but I do not believe St. Clair has a NICU. Should one of my babies have required extra care (and one almost did), I would want to be in the same hospital as them. St. Clair would likely have had to transfer my child to Children's.
Some call Magee a baby factory because of the number of people who deliver there (around 10,000 babies born there a year versus 1,300 for St. Clair). It's a big place, but your birth experience is private. The birthing rooms are large and private. It's quiet and calm. I didn't feel like it was a "factory" at all.
St. Clair is a lot better of a hospital than it used to be, but I still have qualms about it. I think it is fine for adults for emergencies (though I would not go there for something severe) or for other medical treatments. But for kids I'm ehhh. We had to take our toddler there when she has an extremely high fever, and though everyone was very nice, I just didn't feel like they knew what they were doing with a 2 year old. Our pedi told us to take her to an ER, and it was the middle of rush hour, so we chose St. Clair b/c Children's would've taken forever.
I loved Dr. Joshi at Magee Womencare Associates. Her group has locations in the Bethel Park UPMC complex (near South Hills Village Mall - probably convenient for you), at Magee and elsewhere (not sure where).
10-23-2012, 01:06 PM
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I'm not in the South Hills, but I did choose to deliver at Passavant over Magee 20 years ago. I'd make the same decision today. I had a few surgeries at Magee and Passavant prior to being pregnant. My nursing care was better at Passavant than Magee. That's partly why I decided to deliver at Passavant. Pregnancy, labor and delivery isn't really that big of a deal. Most OB/GYNs at other hospitals also work at Magee so it's not like you're getting better doctors for normal pregnancies. You'll end up at Magee if you become a special high risk so it really doesn't matter where you start out.
My only doctor recommendation is to avoid Ira Rock at all costs. Don't even use the practice he's in so you can avoid getting him on-call.
10-23-2012, 02:27 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Burghgirl- did you see the same dr there all the time or did you have to see a bunch of them because they couldn't/wouldn't guarantee who would be available when you went into labor? It looks like there a TON of drs there. I don't see a Dr Joshi though. Thanks.
10-23-2012, 08:23 PM
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West Penn!
It has the same level NICU as Magee if you would ever need it. The nurses are wonderful. The birthing suites and post partum rooms are all recently renovated and huge.
Ok so I know you didn't ask about West Penn but I am always wishing people realized you have a choice besides Magee that is the same on level.
I am not sure about St. Clair. I would think it is okay to use unless you are high risk then they may send you elsewhere. I personally though would want a hospital with a NICU just in case.
10-23-2012, 09:41 PM
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West Penn and Magee are the two NICUs. Anything that happens that puts you at higher risk will end up with you being transferred there anyway, even if you choose one of the smaller outlying hospitals. BTW that is not a choice anymore with anything UPMC; all UPMC deliveries in the area happen at Magee. That's why there are sooo many there.
What I remember is my longtime colleague, who ended up twice in a row with difficult issues. She was scheduled for Shadyside (back when it was still separate from UPMC). But she went to West Penn specifically when there was even a hint of an issue. Even when she was out in the North Hills and someone had called an ambulance for her and they wanted to take her to Passavant (when it was still separate from UPMC) she told them to take her to West Penn or she was getting out!
Here's why: if the baby is delivered and needs the NICU, they will transport the baby to the NICU and you could be separated for...it might not be that long but you don't know. She didn't want that uncertainty. If you go to the place with the NICU directly, you won't ever end up in two different facilities.
That's all I know. I can't exactly tell you anything firsthand.
10-23-2012, 09:50 PM
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BTW that is not a choice anymore with anything UPMC; all UPMC deliveries in the area happen at Magee. That's why there are sooo many there.
It's a terrible thing too. Just like it forces all pediatrics to Childrens. Children's wouldnt' survive financially otherwise. Magee would survive, but UPMC can charge more for tests and services at Magee compared to other UPMC hospitals. Don't believe me? Call UPMC to get quotes for MRIs and ultrasounds for Magee and other UPMC hospitals. Magee's imagining services are higher than most of them. And THAT is why UPMC forces all deliveries to Magee---because UPMC makes more money directing all obstetrics to Magee.
10-24-2012, 08:45 AM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Thank you all for the info. I definitely wouldn't want to be separated if the baby needed the NICU. I saw that St Clair has a Special Needs Nursery but I guess thats not quite as advanced as a NICU. When I had my first child (in NJ) they took her to the NICU bc I developed a fever during the delivery. Turns out nothing was wrong with either of us but they kept her there the whole time we were in the hospital just to make sure she didn't pick up an infection from me. If that happened again I would hate for the baby to be whisked away just for that. Or of course if it was something more serious I would want the best care there right away.
So anyone have an opinion on an OB they LOVE who is associated with either West Penn or Magee in the south hills or robinson areas?
10-24-2012, 08:57 AM
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Burghgirl- did you see the same dr there all the time or did you have to see a bunch of them because they couldn't/wouldn't guarantee who would be available when you went into labor? It looks like there a TON of drs there. I don't see a Dr Joshi though. Thanks.
Magee Womencare has a bunch of smaller divisions, each with several doctors in the practice. There are 3 OBs in the division of the practice that I see - Dr. Seiavitch, Dr. Corey and Dr. Joshi. With my first child, I saw all three doctors (Dr. Joshi is newer to this practice - she replaced another doctor who decided not to do OB anymore). I was induced, so I knew who would be delivering me (Seiavitch, he did a fine job). With my second child, I saw Dr. Joshi at each visit, except my last when she was on vacation. I was scheduled for Seiavitch to handle my inducement with my second child, but Dr. Joshi was also working that evening. She came in to say hi and see how I was doing. She checked me, and ended up delivering my second child a short while later. She was awesome for a lot of reasons, but also because she listened and remembered a number of my concerns. Here's her page on the UPMC website:
Renu Ashwin Joshi, MBBS MD - Find A Doctor, UPMC | University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
It is rare anymore to find an OB who is the only one in the practice. It is also near impossible to guarantee that a particular OB will deliver you. Babies tend to be unpredictable like that. Plus, OBs need to have time off and a life, too. I think my situation worked out well. I knew all of the OBs in my practice from my first child, so I would've been fine with any of them doing the delivery. It just lucked out that I got my favorite, lol.
I think there is something to be said about a female OB who has also had a child. They just understand things in a way that a male OB can't.
Also, to mention post-partum nursing care... with my first child, I wasn't particularly happy with the level of care that I personally received. I had some minor complications, and I just didn't feel like the nursing staff was really on the ball. With our second, I found it vastly improved. I thought they did an excellent job and I felt well looked-after. The quality of the care to the baby was top notch both times.
10-24-2012, 09:05 AM
Location: Mt. Lebanon
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I'd chose St Clair. It's very good and closer to home. SInce you are at the second baby chances are he/she will be come very quickly
and you won;t want to be stuck in traffic going to Magee and give birth in the car.
Pick an obgyn from st clair and go there.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)