12-30-2012, 12:07 PM
Location: NW Penna.
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YtownGuy
Many people in Youngstown, Ohio are the same way; it may well be a rust belt thing.
I blame a huge part of the stagnant thinking on the working-class Catholicism, and particularly the Eastern Europe and Mediterranean branches of it. It needs conformity. It still tries to cast everyone into the same outdated and rigid gender-appropriate molds. (Wink, wink, nod, nod to the defunct metallurgical industries.) I had to quit dating a guy from Pittsburgh a few years ago because his Catholicism started driving me around the bend, with all the "you should" and "you need to" and "here, take these books home and read about what makes a good marriage," etc. SO much heaviness and misey, all the dam time, lol.
I still have no desire to jump out of a perfectly good airplane, or do other crayzee hobbies like that, haha. But as a non-mother and now a divorced woman (It's okay; I am fully resigned to going to Hades. I'll know a lot of the people down there.)
who likes cars, trucks computers, architecture, and science and technology, finds motherhood and homemaker chores boring and too confining, I constantly run up against the societal disapproval here. If you people think Pittsburgh is stodgy and boring, don't ever come to the Shenango or Mahoning Valleys, because we're just positively still stuck in the early '50s here.
12-30-2012, 12:11 PM
Location: 15206
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I don't really think this is a city specific problem. Maybe you just need to make some new friends?
That would be my advice too. I've been in Pgh most of my life and that's now how I live... The people that I know aren't really like that either. Maybe the OP needs to meet different people? Where does the OP live?
I do ask "why..." when it comes to suggestions like "let's go to dinner at Olive Garden and shopping at TJ Max" or "let's sit in our cars and slowly drive through Hartwood Acres to look at lights that advertise for Rite Aid and UPMC" or "Let's be the first people to get the new doo-dad at Best Buy on Black Friday."
If somebody wanted to go for a hike in a park in the snow or cross country ski in Hartwood Acres or bike to the west end overlook or eat Ethopian food or go to an art gallery in Garfield or go to a play downtown, my question would be "When?" not "Why?"
12-30-2012, 12:13 PM
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The fact is there are a lot of people out there and they are free to be as worthless as they want. They're free to take the easy route and be the local foreseeable norm and live it out using just enough of their intelligence to cover up the fact they live in a fashion that merely knee jerk reacts to core animal type requirements. It's up to you to be what you want, find who you want to be around, and move out of a **** hole if it's a **** hole.
12-30-2012, 12:34 PM
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I do ask "why..." when it comes to suggestions like "let's go to dinner at Olive Garden and shopping at TJ Max" or "let's sit in our cars and slowly drive through Hartwood Acres to look at lights that advertise for Rite Aid and UPMC" or "Let's be the first people to get the new doo-dad at Best Buy on Black Friday."
Isn't questioning (& obviously casting in a negative light) the 1st set of examples being equally close minded to other's preferences which are not your own?
12-30-2012, 12:40 PM
Location: Kittanning
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Isn't questioning (& obviously casting in a negative light) the 1st set of examples being equally close minded to other's preferences which are not your own?
Yes, I was thinking that was perhaps his point?
12-30-2012, 01:19 PM
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But as a non-mother and now a divorced woman (It's okay; I am fully resigned to going to Hades. I'll know a lot of the people down there.)
who likes cars, trucks computers, architecture, and science and technology, finds motherhood and homemaker chores boring and too confining, I constantly run up against the societal disapproval here. If you people think Pittsburgh is stodgy and boring, don't ever come to the Shenango or Mahoning Valleys, because we're just positively still stuck in the early '50s here.
Can a stay-at-home mom not have interests or hobbies beyond taking care of her family and home? Just because someone has made the decision to dedicate her time and efforts to raising her kids and taking care of hearth and home doesn't make her some brain dead two-dimensional character from a '50s sitcom.
12-30-2012, 02:10 PM
Location: Penn Hills
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I think it's a midwestern thing.
No, there are people like that everywhere. Not necessarily the majority or anything, but you can find people like that everywhere, in other countries, etc. Karl Pilkington has made an entire career out of being made fun of by his friend Ricky Gervais for having what is called a "little England" attitude - not interested in travelling, not interested in learning about new and out of the box things and cultures, and so on.
I'm not all that different. I'm not adventurous and don't like going out much at all. Of course, I wouldn't ever ask someone why they'd want to do something different, I'd ask them more about their experiences instead, since that's what a polite person would do.
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This is why it is great to go away for school. It seems to me that the majority of kids around here attend local colleges, which seems weird to me. While getting an education is important, college is about striking out in the world and exploring what else is out there.
A pretty privileged attitude. College can be about "exploring" and "striking out" as soon as it's free. Otherwise, some people need to stay close to home to their safety net and focus on their education so that they can even get that education at all. It's frigging expensive, and it's a harsh world out there.
12-30-2012, 03:03 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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This is why it is great to go away for school. It seems to me that the majority of kids around here attend local colleges, which seems weird to me. While getting an education is important, college is about striking out in the world and exploring what else is out there.
Why would most kids leave the Pittsbrugh area for college when there are so many around here? I didn't want to leave Pittsburgh for college because it's expensive, I'm happy here, and most of my friends and family are here.
12-30-2012, 03:10 PM
Location: 15206
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Isn't questioning (& obviously casting in a negative light) the 1st set of examples being equally close minded to other's preferences which are not your own?
No because I've experiences those things and they arent my idea of fun.
12-30-2012, 03:38 PM
Location: North by Northwest
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Why would most kids leave the Pittsbrugh area for college when there are so many around here? I didn't want to leave Pittsburgh for college because it's expensive, I'm happy here, and most of my friends and family are here.
I personally believe that no matter where you're from, if at all possible, you should aim to attend college elsewhere. There are even more high-quality colleges and universities in Philadelphia, but I went to Pitt because I was tired of the same-old and wanted to experience something new. I'm glad I did.
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People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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who likes cars, trucks computers, architecture, and science and technology, finds motherhood and homemaker chores boring and too confining, I constantly run up against the societal disapproval here. If you people think Pittsburgh is stodgy and boring, don't ever come to the Shenango or Mahoning Valleys, because we're just positively still stuck in the early '50s here. 
