Steelers Release James Harrison (Lima: safety, moving, yard)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by track2514

Pretty weak response Gnutella.

1) Faneca made the Pro Bowl twice after leaving and this is a bad thing?
2) Woodson won the Super Bowl and played at a high level after leaving the Steelers
3) Burress was an integral part of the Giants winning the Super Bowl and the gun issue was after said Super Bowl win.
4) Haggans played at a very high level for Arizona and would have been helpful with the linebacker injuries the Steelers have had in recent years.
5) Gary Anderson was one of the best kickers of all time and the Steelers suffered through mediocre kickers after releasing him. Gary kept playing at a high level for several years.
6) Chris Hope was awesome immediately after he left the Steelers and he had a major injury that slowed him down, nothing else.
7) Washington had his best season ever with the Titans he would have been a bargain compared to Brown or Wallace.
8) Vrabel was a big part of the Pats Super Bowls
9) Gandy would have been much better than the sorry O-Line the Steelers have had for several years now.
10) The whole Heinz field argument is weak at best.
11) Kuhn is a football player and the Steelers let him go for almost nothing. Either way you look at it, this was a mistake. He has two Super Bowl Rings and a Pro Bowl appearance.

Again, are you aware there's a salary cap?

You haven't mentioned the talent and success that came/developed when these guys were let go.

Again, are you saying they should have kept Harrison?

[Uptown kid]

John Kuhn has his own chant from the Packers fanbase, and he's fullback... That's a notable feat that can be compared to super bowls and pro bowls! IMO he is elite receiving fullback and an integral part of Greenbay's offense. Korey Hall & Quinn Johnson, great run blockers were cut because of versatility of Kuhn (little known facts)... Keeping Kuhn would've been like having a more useful Naejah Davenport, Gary Russell (goal line), or having Matt Speath, Lenord Pope, or David/Will Johnson (receiving options) if he stayed.
All I'm saying is respect John Kuhn debateably the best receiving fullback (besides Vonta Leech, Le'Ron Mclain, Bruce Miller or Marcell Reece)!

[erieguy]

Basically because his last name goes well with the cheer just like "The Mooooose", "Heeeeeath", etc... If it weren't for that most wouldn't even know who Kuhn is. He's also cheap at 1.6 mill last year and well known more around here because he went to Shippensburg. If you check his numbers he's certainly not elite unless you're a fan of the fullback/blocking position.

[Uptown kid]

I was being a tad sarcastic , but I remember that he was a fullback to remember during the season when we lost to the Packers in the super bowl... Also there was this list
...
92. John Kuhn
93. Cortland Finnegan
94. Marshawn Lynch
95. Tim Tebow
96. D'Qwell Jackson
97. Donald Penn
98. Willis McGahee
99. Ryan Kalil
100. Chris Johnson

[erieguy]

So its a fans vote. I'm betting Packers nation was busy, and/or considering how many people other than Packers fans would have actually watched him play more than a few games, I'd bet overflow from the Super Bowl win a year before. Fan votes/much like the Pro Bowl are popularity contests and people like to say "Kuuuuuuhhhnnnn".

[Uptown kid]

Well the Top 100 Players 2012 (u know the ten part series, ironically Harrison was highest ranked Steeler on the list, Rodgers won) was voted by the players.
Anyway I was just kidding Kuhn is a good (but not great as a fb is not an essential position), who as you said got most of his notoriety from his name. Shoot, I didn't even know Kuhn was cut from the Steelers in the first place.

[Hopes]

Who is James Harrison?

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by track2514

1) Faneca made the Pro Bowl twice after leaving and this is a bad thing?

He made it off reputation, as opposed to actual performance. That happens a lot in the Pro Bowl.

Originally Posted by track2514

2) Woodson won the Super Bowl and played at a high level after leaving the Steelers

He left before Heinz Field was built, and he's really the last big mistake the Steelers have made personnel-wise.

Originally Posted by track2514

3) Burress was an integral part of the Giants winning the Super Bowl and the gun issue was after said Super Bowl win.

He was released because the Steelers believed he had an attitude problem, and the fact that he was convicted of a crime later on justifies their opinion. Would you rather he'd been the Steelers' problem instead? They won two Super Bowls without him anyway.

Originally Posted by track2514

4) Haggans played at a very high level for Arizona and would have been helpful with the linebacker injuries the Steelers have had in recent years.

I doubt he'd appreciate being demoted behind LaMarr Woodley.

Originally Posted by track2514

5) Gary Anderson was one of the best kickers of all time and the Steelers suffered through mediocre kickers after releasing him. Gary kept playing at a high level for several years.

He left before Heinz Field was built, and the only mediocre PKs the Steelers dealt with were Kris Brown and Todd Peterson in 2001 and part of 2002. Otherwise, Norm Johnson and Jeff Reed were each reliable for years.

Originally Posted by track2514

6) Chris Hope was awesome immediately after he left the Steelers and he had a major injury that slowed him down, nothing else.

You know who replaced Chris Hope? Ryan Clark.

Originally Posted by track2514

7) Washington had his best season ever with the Titans he would have been a bargain compared to Brown or Wallace.

Nate Washington started for the Titans for a few seasons. He was never anything more than the third WR for the Steelers. That makes a difference in production.

Originally Posted by track2514

8) Vrabel was a big part of the Pats Super Bowls

He wasn't going to take the starting job from Joey Porter.

Originally Posted by track2514

9) Gandy would have been much better than the sorry O-Line the Steelers have had for several years now.

The Steelers didn't have problems with the offensive line until 2008, Gandy's 15th and final season in the NFL, during which he was benched by the Falcons in favor of Sam Baker, their first-round draft pick that year. When you get benched in favor of a rookie, you ain't got it no more. Max Starks was better than Gandy by then.

Originally Posted by track2514

10) The whole Heinz field argument is weak at best.

No it's not, considering Three Rivers Stadium didn't generate enough revenue for the Steelers to keep superstars in their primes like Rod Woodson, Kevin Greene and Chad Brown. Of those three, only Brown had an adequate replacement (Earl Holmes). Any good player the Steelers have let go of since has either had a quality starter ahead of them (Vrabel) or a more-than-adequate replacement (Hope), or he's just been past his prime (Faneca).

Originally Posted by track2514

11) Kuhn is a football player and the Steelers let him go for almost nothing. Either way you look at it, this was a mistake. He has two Super Bowl Rings and a Pro Bowl appearance.

Kuhn is a FB, and Bruce Arians does not use a true FB in his system of offense. He was released by the Steelers in 2007, the same year Arians became the offensive coordinator. What a coincidence!

Plain and simple, the Steelers have been among the best teams in the NFL at managing their roster this century.

[trackstar13]

Gnutella

The Heinz Field argument can be summed up in two words: Salary Cap. I agree the Steelers have been one of the best teams at managing their roster since the early 1970s, but prior to that not so much and they have had their fair share of mistakes. Recent draft picks like Limas Sweed and Bruce Davis come to mind. In terms of the Kuhn argument, I still disagree because he is a great football player and not just a fullback. The current running back and tight end group (other than Miller) is a weakness and we let Kuhn go for nothing.

[erieguy]

So you're saying they should keep Harrison...and complaining 6 years later about a fullback they had no use for, and have a problem with them prior to the 70's. How many Steeler Super Bowls/appearances since Kuhn?