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Old 03-22-2013, 08:01 AM
 
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...now into the Senate
Pennsylvania House votes to privatize liquor stores - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Democrat reps are looking really bad on this issue.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:13 AM
 
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...now into the Senate
Pennsylvania House votes to privatize liquor stores - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Democrat reps are looking really bad on this issue.
As are their union backers. They basically admitted what this SS system is, which is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable union hacks. Of that, and the sky will be falling because there will be a liquor store on every corner and middle school kids will be dying from binge drinking thanks to private sales.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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As are their union backers. They basically admitted what this SS system is, which is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable union hacks. Of that, and the sky will be falling because there will be a liquor store on every corner and middle school kids will be dying from binge drinking thanks to private sales.
Seriously if they were saying this bill isn't the best way of going about a privatization process our alternative bill here is the better route then I could see their point.

Instead though our democrat reps wasted the day harping on about rampant drunk driving, underage drinking & lost state store jobs & other social ills that are sure to befall the state if it dares allow private liquor sales during the floor debate.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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Free the beer
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Democrat reps are looking really bad on this issue.
They are indeed. In several respects, the PA Democratic Party is as backward and outdated as Tammany Hall, and this is a vivid illustration of how and why.

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As are their union backers. They basically admitted what this SS system is, which is a jobs program for otherwise unemployable union hacks.
And in this state in particular, where the party's championship of the cause of working people has such a noble history, this is a particularly bitter and misguided failure.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Free the beer
This bill does nothing for beer, which is why UKyank is certain right about how the Democrats could have argued for a better privatization bill if they had actually wanted to.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Free the beer
It's already a watered down bill that does nothing to free the beer unfortunately.

And now we'll have the senate wreck it some more. But maybe we'll end up with something. Who knows. Anything would be a start.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:40 AM
 
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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This bill does nothing for beer, which is why UKyank is certain right about how the Democrats could have argued for a better privatization bill if they had actually wanted to.
Well I guess I will still be buying mine in Ohio then
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I can't decide if the beer distributors were left out as part of a reasonable political strategy (i.e. not wanting to **** off every special interest at once) or just part of the usual Republican acceptance of government-created monopolies so long as the profits don't go to labor.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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I live in PA, I'm a Democrat and I'm all for liquor store privatization.
Comparatively to the overwhelming majority of the rest of the country the current system is both strange and unique in a very negative way.
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