one grandview revised plan (Pittsburgh, Allentown: best neighborhoods, neighborhoods, per square foot)

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by jay5835

Trying to picture these. Not coming up with anything.

I'm surprised you've never been along Fifth Avenue in Shadyside before.

Pretty much 75% of the architecture along Fifth Avenue between Aiken & Shady is bland, tan, utilitarian, "garden-styled" garbage. Yes, the landscaping is pretty, but otherwise the entire corridor looks very dated and "ho-hum"; this is certainly NOT what I want to see replicated via One Grandview.

[jay5835]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

I'm surprised you've never been along Fifth Avenue in Shadyside before.

Pretty much 75% of the architecture along Fifth Avenue between Aiken & Shady is bland, tan, utilitarian, "garden-styled" garbage. Yes, the landscaping is pretty, but otherwise the entire corridor looks very dated and "ho-hum"; this is certainly NOT what I want to see replicated via One Grandview.

They're hardly "tenement styled." And when you put forth such ludicrous exaggerations, you render suspect everything else you say.

Goodness.

[rockthecasbah121]

The article mentions a platform being stage one of connecting a glass stairway from there to East Carson street. If that actually took place, it would be pretty cool. Fitness fanatics could all move to Mt. Washington and traverse the stairs everyday to and from work.

[grep]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

Pretty much 75% of the architecture along Fifth Avenue between Aiken & Shady is bland, tan, utilitarian, "garden-styled" garbage.

SCR, have you been in any of those buildings? The outsides may not be interesting but the one South of Fifth at Fifth and Shady is actually rather nice on the inside and IIRC has original hardwood floors. Personally I'd rather have buildings that are nice on the inside and cheap on the facade than the other way around, although with a lot of newer construction you end up with both!

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by grep

SCR, have you been in any of those buildings? The outsides may not be interesting but the one South of Fifth at Fifth and Shady is actually rather nice on the inside and IIRC has original hardwood floors. Personally I'd rather have buildings that are nice on the inside and cheap on the facade than the other way around, although with a lot of newer construction you end up with both!

Considering the vast majority of the rest of Shadyside is comprised of stately Victorian-styled architecture I just think having Fifth Avenue lined with stoic-looking, bland, beige/tan, 1960s-era garden-styled apartments is quite unfortunate. What was originally located where all of these buildings are? Were these lots all once home to beautiful mansions like the ones near Fifth & Amberson? I just don't want to see buildings like this built at the One Grandview site, and it looks as if the developer(s) may have taken a cue from this, as the most current plans call for a 20-story high-rise after all.

[jay5835]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

What was originally located where all of these buildings are? Were these lots all once home to beautiful mansions like the ones near Fifth & Amberson?

Yes. And it's a building style that's fairly limited to the 1960s, maybe '50s.

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

I just don't want to see buildings like this built at the One Grandview site, and it looks as if the developer(s) may have taken a cue from this, as the most current plans call for a 20-story high-rise after all.

These days, a new apartment building will probably look more like the condo next to Temple Beth Shalom at 5859 Beacon Street. But who knows?

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[jea6321]

There is to be yet another new proposal on the 1 grandview site. Details are to be laid out at the community meeting this thursday evening. I will try to make it and report back on the news.

[NYCTelevisionWriter]

Originally Posted by UKyank

We're talking about prime real estate

There's prime, and then there's PRIME.

The problem with Mount Washington is that all it has going for it is a view. A magnificent view, to be sure, but JUST a view.

Outside of the view, the neighborhood of Mount Washington is pretty dumpy, parking is nearly impossible, the streets are difficult to navigate, there's pretty much only one way to access the neighborhood (and unless you live there it's completely out of your way), and there's really nothing else there, like clubs, restaurants, or coffeehouses like you might find in Shadyside or Squirrel Hill.

[Blackbeauty212]

^^^^ You haven't been up to Mt Washington in a while its not a complete dump... It has a nice business district off of Grandview.

I've said this before and I stand by my assertion that Mt. Washington has the bones to be and will be the next "hipster haven" ala L'ville except with more luxury living along Grandview. It's already starting its Gentrification process as it feeds from the popularity of SS Flats.

[NYCTelevisionWriter]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

^^^^ You haven't been up to Mt Washington in a while its not a complete dump... It has a nice business district off of Grandview.

I've said this before and I stand by my assertion that Mt. Washington has the bones to be and will be the next "hipster haven" ala L'ville except with more luxury living along Grandview. It's already starting its Gentrification process as it feeds from the popularity of SS Flats.

I was up on Mount Washington last October. Has it changed much since then?

Look, I never said it was a "complete dump". And yes, it does have a nice business district.

But so does Bloomfield. And so does Etna. And so do most other economically viable neighborhoods. But that's not really a draw. Mt. Washington needs much, much more than a nice view (from one street) to be considered "prime" real estate.