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[h_curtis]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

This attitude just utterly enrages me - because where does it end?

No diabetes treatment for you - you shouldnt have allowed yourself to become a fatty.
Oh, kidney and liver problems - but you were a drinker? No treatment for you.
Lung problems - but you were a smoker? Go suffocate in the parking garage for all we care.
HIV but you rawdogged six hookers while high on coke? Your life expectancy is now 4 years - make the most of it.
Trauma from a car accident, but you were speeding and at fault for the accident? Here's some morphine while we allow you to bleed out in the parking lot.
Heroin overdose? No Narcan for you big boy, you shouldn't have put that needle into your arm.

Seriously, where does it end?

The Branch Covidians who worship at the First Church of Fauci and drink the Pfizer-branded Kool-Aid have utterly lost the plot - and any humanity that they claim to profess. Selfish, arrogant tyrants with moral superiority complexes. The same types of personalities that filled the ranks of the KGB and the Waffen-SS - with their willingness to eradicate the undesirable elements of society "for the greater good".

Show me one hospital overrun with those people, and I'll agree. Show me one place where people with emergencies can't get a hospital bed because the hospitals are overrun with people that have diabetes. You won't, because it doesn't exist.


You're comparing apples with oranges, and you're either doing it intentionally to obfuscate the real issue, or you just really are that dull witted.

[Mtl-Cns]

Originally Posted by gg

I think what we are learning is very simple. If you want to stay open, hire republicans. Seriously, it is that simple. They work hard and aren't like hiring a bunch of babies. Just simply as a few questions on the interviewing weed out the democrats that are super entitled and privileged. How low can we really get? Time to go more towards people that are tough and want to work. Enough snowflakes.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022...affing-issues/

This is the craziest goddamn thing I think I've ever read on here, and that's really saying something. This place has officially gone full-on wackjob.

[gg]

Originally Posted by Mtl-Cns

This is the craziest goddamn thing I think I've ever read on here, and that's really saying something. This place has officially gone full-on wackjob.

I would rather hire people that don't want socialism because they believe on standing on their own two feet. Also there is a movement in the Democratic Party that is against capitalism. So if someone is going to work and are against capitalism, do you think they are going to be a good employee? Unlikely. If I go out to eat in the city I rarely get good service. If I go out in the country I usually get good service. This gels with my idea of the more left you get the worse the work ethic. The style of the left is they act as though you are privileged to seat and eat in a restaurant. The people on the right are happy you are there because it provides them a job in a capitalistic society. This of course is a broad stroke, but let's face it, I am on point. You are better off hiring people that believe in capitalism and passing over the socialists. There is a reason they are socialists in the first place. Don't want to work comes to mind.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by gg

I would rather hire people that don't want socialism because they believe on standing on their own two feet. Also there is a movement in the Democratic Party that is against capitalism. So if someone is going to work and are against capitalism, do you think they are going to be a good employee? Unlikely. If I go out to eat in the city I rarely get good service. If I go out in the country I usually get good service. This gels with my idea of the more left you get the worse the work ethic. The style of the left is they act as though you are privileged to seat and eat in a restaurant. The people on the right are happy you are there because it provides them a job in a capitalistic society. This of course is a broad stroke, but let's face it, I am on point. You are better off hiring people that believe in capitalism and passing over the socialists. There is a reason they are socialists in the first place. Don't want to work comes to mind.

Take me to your leader….

[Mtl-Cns]

Originally Posted by gg

I would rather hire people that don't want socialism because they believe on standing on their own two feet. Also there is a movement in the Democratic Party that is against capitalism. So if someone is going to work and are against capitalism, do you think they are going to be a good employee? Unlikely. If I go out to eat in the city I rarely get good service. If I go out in the country I usually get good service. This gels with my idea of the more left you get the worse the work ethic. The style of the left is they act as though you are privileged to seat and eat in a restaurant. The people on the right are happy you are there because it provides them a job in a capitalistic society. This of course is a broad stroke, but let's face it, I am on point. You are better off hiring people that believe in capitalism and passing over the socialists. There is a reason they are socialists in the first place. Don't want to work comes to mind.

I think you need a little of this in your life: https://www.khanacademy.org/math/statistics-probability

Try it out. I'll give a few hints. What you've got going here is a lot of antecdotal conjecture with a ****ton and a half of what's called confirmation bias. If you are in any way serious, take a statistics course, like the free one I've linked to, develop some sort of legitimate double blinded study, have it peer reviewed by independent and impartial scientists, and then see what comes out. Otherwise you just sound like you're on a crazy rant.

EDIT: And I mean you sound as crazy in your capitalist rant as someone would sound ranting about communism in the midcentury USSR.

[tyovan4]

Originally Posted by Mtl-Cns

EDIT: And I mean you sound as crazy in your capitalist rant as someone would sound ranting about communism in the midcentury USSR.

My son's mother grew up in the Soviet Union and says that the current political climate in this country regarding what one is 'allowed' to publicly say is worse than how the Soviet Union was.

[h_curtis]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

My son's mother grew up in the Soviet Union and says that the current political climate in this country regarding what one is 'allowed' to publicly say is worse than how the Soviet Union was.

Still waiting for examples of hospitals being overrun with diabetes patients so bad that they’ve run out of icu beds.

[norcider]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

My son's mother grew up in the Soviet Union and says that the current political climate in this country regarding what one is 'allowed' to publicly say is worse than how the Soviet Union was.

Thank you for your anecdotal contribution.

[tyovan4]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

Still waiting for examples of hospitals being overrun with diabetes patients so bad that they’ve run out of icu beds.

It was an example of denying care to patients with a lifestyle-induced illness. The same as how you want to deny care to patients who chose not to receive the COVID vaccine. Its just as unethical.

However, since the preaching of the Branch Covidians is that we should let the unvaccinated die in the parking lot in order to reduce the strain on our healthcare delivery system and our heroic healthcare workers (who went from being a hero to being an unemployed zero if they didnt get vaccinated) - how about we deny care to overdose victims since they demonstrably also burden the delivery system, particularly the EMS system??

https://www.fosters.com/story/lifest...s/13990380007/

https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news...s-workers/amp/

https://www.wsls.com/news/2018/02/05...on-responders/

https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwork...mergency-rooms

https://www.hrsa.gov/enews/past-issu...alth-workforce

[h_curtis]

Originally Posted by tyovan4

It was an example of denying care to patients with a lifestyle-induced illness. The same as how you want to deny care to patients who chose not to receive the COVID vaccine. Its just as unethical.

However, since the preaching of the Branch Covidians is that we should let the unvaccinated die in the parking lot in order to reduce the strain on our healthcare delivery system and our heroic healthcare workers (who went from being a hero to being an unemployed zero if they didnt get vaccinated) - how about we deny care to overdose victims since they demonstrably also burden the delivery system, particularly the EMS system??

https://www.fosters.com/story/lifest...s/13990380007/

https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news...s-workers/amp/

https://www.wsls.com/news/2018/02/05...on-responders/

https://www.hmpgloballearningnetwork...mergency-rooms

https://www.hrsa.gov/enews/past-issu...alth-workforce

Let's put aside the fact that addiction isn't a lifestyle choice, and focus on your other examples;




It's not a good example, because lifestyle induced illnesses aren't overrunning hospitals. I have yet to see someone refused a bed in ICU because there are too many diabetes patients.

Or kidney patients.
Or liver patients.
Or lung patients.
Or HIV patients.
Or speeding patients.



So don't equivocate them, because it's not the same.


The vaccine is a choice, and unless people are addicted to not getting a vaccine, then you're creating false equivalences which is either dumb or disingenuous.



Just carry the courage of your convictions to it's logical end, and if you contract COVID and willing chose to not take the vaccine, then also willing choose to not ask for help when it ravages your lungs.