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Old 07-04-2010, 11:30 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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No, NO, NO, picking and choosing is not allowed.
Please explain.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:31 PM
 
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I'm a 137. I voted for Taft back in the day.

Btw, I'm human so try referring to me as such, rather than "one"

I think Jesus would be a little upset with you.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:32 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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No, to your first question. I would say however, it is the way in which we discuss these matters. I hear what you are saying and do understand what you are talking about. I for one have been over there(mideast) back in the 90's(courtesy of the US Navy). Being there and understanding a little bit of the culture, did change my opinion of certain(not all) aspects of the Muslim world.

No, to your second question. Discussing matters of crimes against humanity(and I consider terrorists of this calling), is in no way judging in my book. Then again, it is in how we discuss these matters and what at the end of the day, can we expect to get out of it, a better understanding based on facts, or just name calling based on presumptions......
Have you seen any judging going on here and from whom?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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That's alright, being condescending is the last resort of someone who hasn't the abilty to debate-can't grasp the straws, so they make an insult.
I have told you twice that you are quoting from the Old Testament and the first time you replied with another Old Testament source. In case you don't know, and most like you don't, the New Testament is the Christian part and the other, to me, is a history of the Hebrew people.

Now you need to stop the picking out just any part of any place you can find the words you need but do you know that the New Testament is about Christ and his teachings, and the Old Testament came before his birth?

The fact that the two books are contained in most versions of the Holy Bible is kind of like the two distinct parts of the Koran that Mohammed wrote while he was warring to gain control of the areas around Mecca and Medina and the rest after he had won those wars. He was much tougher in the second part and for good reason. It is that part of the Koran that the Islamists are using for their behavior and will continue to use.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:35 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i think so but they must-- simply must-- distance themselves from muslim extremists.
so far-- they have not. so far they have consistently accused the american public of suspecting them as being sympathizers. not a wild accusation.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:36 PM
 
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I have told you twice that you are quoting from the Old Testament and the first time you replied with another Old Testament source. In case you don't know, and most like you don't, the New Testament is the Christian part and the other, to me, is a history of the Hebrew people.

Now you need to stop the picking out just any part of any place you can find the words you need but do you know that the New Testament is about Christ and his teachings, and the Old Testament came before his birth?

The fact that the two books are contained in most versions of the Holy Bible is kind of like the two distinct parts of the Koran that Mohammed wrote while he was warring to gain control of the areas around Mecca and Medina and the rest after he had won those wars. He was much tougher in the second part and for good reason. It is that part of the Koran that the Islamists are using for their behavior and will continue to use.
As someone else mentioned, how about the 10 Commandments, do you believe those still apply? They are in the old testament, aren't they?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:40 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Please read this link and then answer that question. I believe that anyone with an open mind will have to answer the same as I would.

Political Islam // The 5 Principles
Define good American, so we know exactly what you are asking.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Well, as a Catholic, we do use the OT in Mass. Not the parts about stoning people and killing our oxen, but you know the other stuff.

Who are you to tell me what specifically my faith is? Just keep diggin' buddy. Must be half way to the Holy Land by now.

But it's okay for Christians to ignore the pork parts, but homosexuality is still banned....? Yeah, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Christ's death on the Cross absolved us from ALL sin and was the NEW CONVENENT with God. But what do I know, I'm liberal-I couldn't possibly understand Christianity.
Now you are casting about to find something to get away from Islamist thinking. This thread started about Muslims and you are trying to shift the topic to Christianity. I guess you aren't much of one since you want to make them something they aren't.

Do you understand that I was just as liberal as you seem to be when I was still in my 30s? I finally saw the light and have never been close to liberalism since. Maybe someday if you read some things you don't think you want to read you may awaken sooner than I did. However, I doubt that the thing that opened my eyes would do that for you. In 1972 the Democrats nominated an avowed socialist for President and they left me standing there alone and forced me to vote for a Republican I had voted against a time or two before that. Since that year I have not voted for a Dem for President at all because most of their candidates have been about as far left in their beliefs as McGovern was in 1972.

I am hoping that as you grow older you will take some chances with your liberalism but probably that won't happen.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Since the Ten Commandments came about in the Old Testament, I think we should probably do away with them. Do you think they will notice that we are cherry-picking which parts of the Old Testament still apply and which don't?

Signed,

A Concerned Christian
Do you mean that liberals haven't done away with that part of Christian belief? You need to look around and stop doing the cherry picking thing. Oh you were referring to me and unliberal Christians?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:43 PM
 
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Have you seen any judging going on here and from whom?
Oh good lord. The first post in this thread is presented as "proof" that Muslims cannot be "good" (whatever the Hell THAT means) Americans.

Give me a break. It (the premise of this thread) is completely judgmental. Sigh.
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