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Old 07-06-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: USA
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This is from the Center on Budget & Policy Priorities.




Some critics continue to assert that President George W. Bush’s policies bear little responsibility for the deficits the nation faces over the coming decade — that, instead, the new policies of President Barack Obama and the 111th Congress are to blame. Most recently, a Heritage Foundation paper downplayed the role of Bush-era policies.

Nevertheless, the fact remains: Together with the economic downturn, the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Facts.
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Wow is this the same Center on Budget & Policy Priorities?

Center on Budget and Policy Priorities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"According to New York Times reporter Matt Bai, CBPP is funded by the Democracy Alliance. According to Bai's account, representatives of CBPP attended a May 2006 meeting of the Democracy Alliance to "talk about the agendas they were busy crafting that would catapult Democratic politics into the economic future.""

I'm impressed! LOL.
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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And they got their data from those lefties at the CBO.

Please try debunking the data.
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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And they got their data from those lefties at the CBO.

Please try debunking the data.

Nah, the Heritage Foundation did a much better job than I could. Your lefty wingnuts don't believe in dynamic scoring as if tax policy has no influence on behavior. LOL.
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:43 PM
 
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And they got their data from those lefties at the CBO.

Please try debunking the data.
You know how to make data twisted to say the complete opposite and lie to the American public?

Give it to a liberal... like what you just did by starting this useless thread... misinformation is the liberal's specialty...
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:06 PM
 
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This is from the Center on Budget & Policy Priorities.




Some critics continue to assert that President George W. Bush’s policies bear little responsibility for the deficits the nation faces over the coming decade — that, instead, the new policies of President Barack Obama and the 111th Congress are to blame. Most recently, a Heritage Foundation paper downplayed the role of Bush-era policies.

Nevertheless, the fact remains: Together with the economic downturn, the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036

Yawn.

garbage in garbage out.

Here is a shocker- our debt problem is due to SPENDING, not revenues. You can see from the link that government revenues have increased progressively over time. The problem? Government spending has far outpaced revenues, despite increased revenues. Give the feds more revenue and they will just blow it, as they have in the past.

The left can never utter these terrible words from thier lips - CUT SPENDING.

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/charts.html
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The Bush tax "cuts" were financed with borrowed money (read: deficit spending). I have seen estimates of a total cost of two to three trillion dollars by the time the money is repaid.

Looks to me more like a huge Bush vote-buying scheme, paid for by the same people he bribed.

Neat trick.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Yawn.

garbage in garbage out.

Here is a shocker- our debt problem is due to SPENDING, not revenues. You can see from the link that government revenues have increased progressively over time. The problem? Government spending has far outpaced revenues, despite increased revenues. Give the feds more revenue and they will just blow it, as they have in the past.

The left can never utter these terrible words from thier lips - CUT SPENDING.

Government Taxes and Revenue Chart in United States 1995-2015 - Federal State Local
I would agree with you on two accounts.
1- Liberals do not like lip service.
2- I can see a lot of garbage out.

If you want to talk about spending, and deficit, make sure you show both in your chart (and account it as a percentage of GDP). For example:


I don't know about you but I see a pronounced separation of Federal government spending and revenue starting sometime around 1970 and continuing through 1998, and before taking a nose dive right around the first Bush tax cuts.

Now, you seem to disagree the premise of massive deficits due to wars and tax policies during Bush Jr era. Could you just explain elements that led to amassing of over $5T in deficit during the eight years. What were we spending so massively on that we weren't in 1990s?
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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We cannot tax our way to a balanced budget. The problem is government overspending, plain and simple. We can, however, tax our way to a permanent economic depression.

If the Federal government took 100% of every man, woman and child's income, they STILL would spend it all, borrow twice as much more, and then start looking at how they could steal our retirement savings and other assets. Giving them more tax dollars is like giving an alcoholic more hard liquor, in the hopes they will be satisfied.

And the OP is incorrect in saying that "Together with the economic downturn, the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years." A corrected version would be that "The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and additional government spending in excess of revenues, explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years."

A tax cut is not the same thing as the government spending money, and it does not "cost" the government money whenever a tax rate is not at the historical maximum. If a mugger holds me up, takes the $50 I have in my pocketbook, but throws two quarters and a dime back in my face, I have not "cost" the mugger 60 cents.

Progressives/Liberals seem to think that every penny Americans earn belongs to the federal government, but it helps to remember that our Founding Fathers believed, and based the entire Country, on the opposite idea.
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