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Old 07-18-2010, 01:56 PM
 
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Morgan Freeman is much smarter a person (who happens to be black) and he says to stop talking about it and he is correct. Don't give it any more creed.
I have not seen any racist signs, but I am sure they are not "real" tea partiers, and more like the left stirring up trouble.
Isn't Morgan Freeman a movie star? Thought you folks didn't think movie stars should weigh in on politics.

Do you really think people like David Duke and organizations like stormfront are going to be negatively impacted by NOT BEING CALLED ON THEIR RACISM?

You really should do more reading than GOP email talking points and conservative bloggers. Try doing some research on white supremacists. I have a feeling you most likelly have no idea what I'm talking about. Inform yourself, and don't rely on movie stars to tell you what to do.
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Isn't Morgan Freeman a movie star? Thought you folks didn't think movie stars should weigh in on politics.

Do you really think people like David Duke and organizations like stormfront are going to be negatively impacted by NOT BEING CALLED ON THEIR RACISM?

You really should do more reading than GOP email talking points and conservative bloggers. Try doing some research on white supremacists. I have a feeling you most likelly have no idea what I'm talking about. Inform yourself, and don't rely on movie stars to tell you what to do.
I do have to wonder who benefits from racist comments being made public and then played over and over and over by the media? If no one gave these people a voice or a platform how much harm would they really do?

For example; I never heard of stormfront until I started posting here. I'm sure there are millions of others who still haven't heard of it....so who are they really hurting by getting online and saying racist things to each other?
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:09 PM
 
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Isn't Morgan Freeman a movie star? Thought you folks didn't think movie stars should weigh in on politics.

Do you really think people like David Duke and organizations like stormfront are going to be negatively impacted by NOT BEING CALLED ON THEIR RACISM?

You really should do more reading than GOP email talking points and conservative bloggers. Try doing some research on white supremacists. I have a feeling you most likelly have no idea what I'm talking about. Inform yourself, and don't rely on movie stars to tell you what to do.
Morgan Freeman is a human being. Who cares what his line of work is. You assume too much. Stop giving yourself so much undeserved pats of the back.
I don't care about people who waste my time, such as these groups, whether they be white or black, racisim is racisim and all people have them in their social groups. I am not going to let anyone else define me.
You need to calm down. It's this blind hate that is causing so much problems in this country. You are contributing to it.
You should really actually think about what you are saying, before you say it. You don't know me, because if you did, you wouldn't be saying what you are saying. I don't read blogs. Conservative or otherwise. You have no clue what I read or don't read. So slow your heart rate down.
Will it go away? No, because it is human nature. But if you give creedence to it, like giving a toddle what they want after a temper tantrum, they will continue to throw them again and again, because they know they will get their way. Continuing to talk about racist this and racist that, is just giving the true racists what they want.
So I will stop giving in to you, by ignoring you from now on.
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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I do have to wonder who benefits from racist comments being made public and then played over and over and over by the media? If no one gave these people a voice or a platform how much harm would they really do?

For example; I never heard of stormfront until I started posting here. I'm sure there are millions of others who still haven't heard of it....so who are they really hurting by getting online and saying racist things to each other?
Dear god! Do you really think that not knowing about white supremacists means that they will not be able to continue there terror toward blacks and other minorities? I can't believe I"m seeing this.

The KKK was bankrupted by a lawsuit, so they had to basically "disban" because they received such a high judgement against them that if they ever formally organized again and had any money or assets it would all go to the judgement.

So......the kkk disappeared, but stormfront replaced them. Not paying attention to the white supremacists for a period of time does NOT make them go away. There are some very violent people in that movement, not people I would want to ignore. You might want to do a little research into the white supremacist organizations around these days, ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA. That area is a hotbed of w/s organizations. Have you ever heard of Christian Identity? Actually the Internet has provided a place for many "closet" w/s to get involved with more organized groups and become more outspoken themselves.

Wasn't a black man tied to the back of a truck and drug to death in the not too distant past? Do you think ignoring a cancer will make it go away? Ignoring white supremacists at this point in our history is not going to make it go away. How many more individual black people do you want to die because of such barbaric beliefs?

Do you know what the Southern Poverty Law Center is? If stormfront is so harmless, I wonder why the FBI and SPLC monitor that site? I also wonder why they arrested a guy who was posting threats to Obama just before he was elected President? Hmmm. There are a number of other organizations and agencies who monitor stormfront for national security. Yeah, just a bunch of yahoos posting racist stuff to each other on the Internet, nothing to pay attention to.

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Old 07-18-2010, 02:27 PM
 
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Morgan Freeman is a human being. Who cares what his line of work is. You assume too much. Stop giving yourself so much undeserved pats of the back.
I don't care about people who waste my time, such as these groups, whether they be white or black, racisim is racisim and all people have them in their social groups. I am not going to let anyone else define me.
You need to calm down. It's this blind hate that is causing so much problems in this country. You are contributing to it.
You should really actually think about what you are saying, before you say it. You don't know me, because if you did, you wouldn't be saying what you are saying. I don't read blogs. Conservative or otherwise. You have no clue what I read or don't read. So slow your heart rate down.
Will it go away? No, because it is human nature. But if you give creedence to it, like giving a toddle what they want after a temper tantrum, they will continue to throw them again and again, because they know they will get their way. Continuing to talk about racist this and racist that, is just giving the true racists what they want.
So I will stop giving in to you, by ignoring you from now on.
Thank you for ignoring me. Your post are just too simplistic to deal with. So "racism" is just human nature. Hmmmm. Highly evolved, are you? Ignore reality and everything will be lolipops and roses.
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Dear god! Do you really think that not knowing about white supremacists means that they will not be able to continue there terror toward blacks and other minorities? I can't believe I"m seeing this.

The KKK was bankrupted by a lawsuit, so they had to basically "disban" because they received such a high judgement against them that if they ever formally organized again and had any money or assets it would all go to the judgement.

So......the kkk disappeared, but stormfront replaced them. Not paying attention to the white supremacists for a period of time does NOT make them go away. There are some very violent people in that movement, not people I would want to ignore. You might want to do a little research into the white supremacist organizations around these days, ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA. That area is a hotbed of w/s organizations. Have you ever heard of Christian Identity?

Wasn't a black man tied to the back of a truck and drug to death in the not to distant past? Do you think ignoring a cancer will make it go away? Ignoring white supremacists at this point in our history is not going to make it go away. How many more individual black people do you want to die because of such barbaric beliefs?
You didn't answer my question. You didn't even attempt to answer my question. So I'll ask it again:
For example; I never heard of stormfront until I started posting here. I'm sure there are millions of others who still haven't heard of it....so who are they really hurting by getting online and saying racist things to each other?
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:35 PM
 
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OMg! Glenn Beck said NAACP is racist, and he put up some cherry picked videos to support his point of view, so by darned, it must be true.

Some folks would do well to take their own advice about hate in their lives.....and maybe join the NAACP offer their advice and support since "they" know so much about what the NAACP should be doing.
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Since you have seen that the VAST MAJORITY of the time it is liberals who cherry pick video to create a lie, how about giving us just a few examples? If it is done the VAST MAJORITY of the time by liberals, surely you can point to a few examples.

Btw, who knows whether or not Glenn Beck is a racist. However, it does seem clear that Glenn Beck will say whatever he needs to say to appeal to his followers, (and keep his ratings up, and sell his books, and get people to enroll in his "university) and obviously he understands what they want to hear.
alright, how about the video interviews that sarah palin did with katie couric? 9 hours of video, and yet when the cutting was done, they took the worst parts they could find and used it against palin. surly they could have given her some credit for her accomplishments some where.

or how about the video that was shot with gibson? that video was also chopped up, but fortunately the full interview was posted on mark levins website, and it shows a completely different picture of palin than the gibson interview did. thats just two. and how about during the 2004 election when dan rather used falsified documents to try and get kerry elected? rather knew the documents were false yet he used them anyway, and the tried to backpedal and make excuses and point the finger elsewhere. there are many examples that can be pointed to, one only needs to do a little research.

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How about you provide some of those statistics you are talking about?

Ahhh, we're back to that "democrats are racist" argument. Yeah, just ignore the Dixicrats, and all the other history of the Republican Party and Democratic Party over the decades. Right. Interesting talking point for the simple minded.
ok, lets look at the history of the republican party, and their stance on civil rights and slavery, shall we? the first republican president, abraham lincoln(remember that in 1860 the republican party was the third party behind the democrat and the whig parties) was the one that signed the emancipation proclamation, and later pushed the 13th amendment through congress, with the help of the republicans in congress. remember the civil rights act of 1964? and the voting rights act of 1965? BOTH of those pieces of legislation were passed through due in large part to the efforts of the republican party, and the northern democrats. without the republicans both of those pieces of legislation would never have passed. since 1860 the republican party has had a much better record on civil rights for EVERYONE than the democrat party has.

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Isn't Morgan Freeman a movie star? Thought you folks didn't think movie stars should weigh in on politics.
morgan freeman is a movie star yes, but he is one of the few that has a brain, and uses it. there are those in hollywood who i have respect for, even though i may not agree with their political views. morgan freeman, chuck norris, and ed bagley are three of them. i dont agree with ed bagleys political views, but i respect the fact that he practices what he preaches. bagley is an environmentalist, and is seriously pushing for a greener economy. now there are those that also push for a greener economy, but dont practice a greener lifestyle. bagley does. he does own an electric car, and he does use solar panels, etc. i give credit where credit is due. but when the more liberal stars in hollywood blast capitalism, and push for socialism, and yet they still use capitalism to make their money, or when they push things that they know nothing about, i dismiss them.
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:40 PM
 
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You didn't answer my question. You didn't even attempt to answer my question. So I'll ask it again:
For example; I never heard of stormfront until I started posting here. I'm sure there are millions of others who still haven't heard of it....so who are they really hurting by getting online and saying racist things to each other?
Well, for one thing, a stormfront member was arrested just prior to the Presidential election for threatening Obama online, on stormfront.

Stormfront web site is monitored by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI. Stormfront is a hate group. Silly me. I just assumed if the FBI considered a hate group dangerous enough to monitor their web site, there just may be a good reason for that.

Again, do you know anything about the Southern Poverty Law Center and what they do? If you go to their site, you will find lots of interesting information about stormfront and other hate groups.

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Old 07-18-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Well, for one thing, a stormfront member was arrested just prior to the Presidential election for threatening Obama.

Stormfront web site is monitored by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI. Stormfront is a hate group. Silly me. I just assumed if the FBI considered a hate group dangerous enough to monitor their web site, there just may be a good reason for that.

Again, do you know anything about the Southern Poverty Law Center and what they do? If you go to their site, you will find lots of interesting information about stormfront and other hate groups.
Either you're not understanding my question or you are not answering it on purpose...
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:02 PM
 
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Either you're not understanding my question or you are not answering it on purpose...
I am answering your question. What exactly don't you understand about posting a threat to a Presidential candidate on their web site? I see that as harmful.

Define what you mean by "hurt"..........you want to play lawyer, then clarify your question. Hurt physically, hurt emotionally, hurt financially, exactly what do you mean by "hurt" and what do you mean by "really hurt"? Is there a difference between "hurt" and "really hurt"?

How does hate speech hurt society? Can you answer that one?
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