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Old 07-19-2010, 10:19 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Maybe you arent understanding what took place here..
Person A violated the law, person B was punished.. Tell me where the law says you can punish person B because person A violated copyright laws? They more than likely dont even know each other existed, its like me speeding, and a cop in another state pulling you over and giving you the ticket for it..
Person B had a free website at blogetery.com (person A). Blogetery rents a server from Burstnet. If blogetery didn't pay it's server bill then Burstnet would shut down the server - with no obligation to keep blogerty's client's websites up. Burstnet has no obligation to blogetery's clients in this copyright situation either.
If the police shut down a shady bricks-and-mortar store - they have no obligation to keep it open for the nogoodnic's customers.
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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It appears that some believe in collective punishment...

If one member of a group is at fault,ALL of the group should be punished.

Even those who had no knowledge of the action or even knew the culprit existed.

That seems troubling to me.
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Siete View Post
Person B had a free website at blogetery.com (person A). Blogetery rents a server from Burstnet. If blogetery didn't pay it's server bill then Burstnet would shut down the server - with no obligation to keep blogerty's client's websites up. Burstnet has no obligation to blogetery's clients in this copyright situation either.
Yes but again the difference is.. did the webserver shut down the sites, or did the federal government?

If the webserver shut them down, I have no issue with it.. If the federal government did, then I do.. The fact that the sites were free is meaningless, because even if they were paid sites, the obligation ends at the end of payment due, and its a civil issue, not a criminal one..
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not impression..the government did tell them to shut it down but didn't say why..yet.

U.S. Authorities Shut Down Wordpress Host With 73,000 Blogs | TorrentFreak

From the above link..copies of correspondence sent out by wordpress to the blog owner:

"Bn.xx*********** was terminated by request of law enforcement officials, due to material hosted on the server. We are limited as to the details we can provide to you, but note that this was a critical matter and the only available option to us was to immediately deactivate the server."

And a further one:

"Please note that this was not a typical case, in which suspension and notification would be the norm. This was a critical matter brought to our attention by law enforcement officials. We had to immediately remove the server."
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:24 AM
 
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According to some sources, they think there is more to this story than some copyright violations. Some suggest terrorism and child pornography could be the reason for such drastic actions.
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Not impression..the government did tell them to shut it down but didn't say why..yet.

U.S. Authorities Shut Down Wordpress Host With 73,000 Blogs | TorrentFreak

From the above link..copies of correspondence sent out by wordpress to the blog owner:

"Bn.xx*********** was terminated by request of law enforcement officials, due to material hosted on the server. We are limited as to the details we can provide to you, but note that this was a critical matter and the only available option to us was to immediately deactivate the server."

And a further one:

"Please note that this was not a typical case, in which suspension and notification would be the norm. This was a critical matter brought to our attention by law enforcement officials. We had to immediately remove the server."
Well that settles it,they MUST have been breaking the law....
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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According to some sources, they think there is more to this story than some copyright violations. Some suggest terrorism and child pornography could be the reason for such drastic actions.
Maybe that was the "Science Experiments for Kids" website??????
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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According to some sources, they think there is more to this story than some copyright violations. Some suggest terrorism and child pornography could be the reason for such drastic actions.
Neither one of those would involve copyright violations..
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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Neither one of those would involve copyright violations..
I never said they did...
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:36 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Maybe that was the "Science Experiments for Kids" website??????
scienceexperimentsforkids.blogetery.com only has 4 posts - all from Oct-Nov 2007.

Don't let this one stale website on the server be the excuse not to take down child-porn and file sharing websites.

Google cache - while it lasts:
Science experiments for kids — Just another Blogetery.com weblog
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