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Old 08-10-2010, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Earth
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CPC was also known as the House Progressive Caucus and the Progressive Caucus and was created in 1992 by Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Until 1999, it operated openly with the Democratic Socialists of America.

Back in 1999, this was written about the house Progressive Caucus.

[color=DarkRed][i]This success occurred in spite of the fact that there is a symbiotic relationship between the HPC and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) — a relationship that has been ignored by the major media. The DSA is the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International, the world’s oldest and largest hodgepodge of socialist, social democratic, and labour parties. The Socialist International proudly boasts that it is the successor to the so-called "First International" of Karl Marx, founded in London in 1864.
The communists did NOT like the Socialist International, at all. Nor did the parties of the SI (formerly called the Second International) like the communists at all. In fact the Soviet Union imprisoned and killed socialists and social democrats, which is why a socialist, Fanny Kaplan, tried to assassinate Lenin (too bad she didn't).


The SI also played a very big role in defeating the Soviet bloc during the Cold War.

You may not agree with their ideas but I fail to see how they present any sort of threat and they should remain legal, as they were even during the McCarthy period, although Woodrow Wilson put quite a few of them in jail. (His persecution of the American left even outdid Tail Gunner Joe's, which is why I'm surprised Glenn Beck doesn't like him. Must be the "D" following his name.)
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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Here's more info on the Socialist in Washington.

This list is identical to the OP from a different source.
Congressional Progressive Caucus

More sites to back up how most belong to these groups too.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6428

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6497

Didn't McCarthy try to tell everyone that we had communist in our government? We still do, they are mixed in with the groups above.

Communist Party USA(CPUSA)
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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The communists did NOT like the Socialist International, at all. Nor did the parties of the SI (formerly called the Second International) like the communists at all. In fact the Soviet Union imprisoned and killed socialists and social democrats, which is why a socialist, Fanny Kaplan, tried to assassinate Lenin (too bad she didn't).
The Bolsheviks did not like anyone, their closest comrades from earlier days in particular. Stalins paranoiac purges left few foes, real or imagined, alive. Even Trotsky was purged, exiled, and eventually assasinated.
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Seriously, when you guys tout theories like this, all it does is show how far off from the center you are. Communist Congressmen, nullification, Obama being a Marxist, etc., are nothing but loony fringe beliefs. If you honestly believe these things, it just shows you are not a serious political thinker.

Now, if you don't want to be considered serious, that's fine. But in the real world, even conservative Republicans think these ideas are crazy. But in a way, you do your movement a lot of damage when you revere Rush and Beck over legitimate political thinkers like George Will.

Just an FYI.
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:41 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default Simplified

Don't get hung up on labels.

The problem is demonstrated behavior in terms of undesirable legislation passed under false pretense and without thorough discussion.

Pass it now or else, 'of course we didin't read the legislation', "pass it to find out what's in it', 'won't pass healthcare by nuclear option because I couldn't govern'.

Obama proclaiming time was need to pass Bush legislation but when it was his turn he abandon that claim.

Recess appointment, not of the a representative to the UN, but a guy in charge of a budget larger than the defense budget. This is legal but outside the spirit of the law.

Obama's campaign threatened to take legal action against any perceived lies about the candidate.

Call 1-800 whitehouse to report any spurious talk or communication that was anti healthcare.

I don't know what to label these turncoats and I don't care what you call them. Arguing about labels is a diversion from focusing on their demonstrated repulsive behaviors which we need to reverse ASAP.

All you need to know is that any legislator who voted for Obamacare needs to be canned at the next election. Include Susan Collins R and Olympia Snowe R from Maine in the next wash.

Watching the primaries you need to realize how close the Nov elctions will
be. This time every vote does count.

A useless conversation at a distance of 10 feet..... "Is that thar buffalo whats charging us, a bull or a cow?"
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Old 08-11-2010, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Seriously, when you guys tout theories like this, all it does is show how far off from the center you are. Communist Congressmen, nullification, Obama being a Marxist, etc., are nothing but loony fringe beliefs
These fears are very real, and based on reality, not just so called looney fringe beliefs. There have been hundreds, or perhaps thousands, of posts on CD from those expressing these concerns. In recent years the Democratic Party has swung far, far to the left, and is now under the control of radicals, the so called Progressives, and the ideology of progressives IS Marxist, whether or not others choose to realize and accept this. American Conservatives fear that the US is rapidly becoming, at best, a clone of one of the Euro Socialist nations, or, at worst, a new Soviet Union.
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Old 08-11-2010, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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These fears are very real, and based on reality, not just so called loony fringe beliefs. There have been hundreds, or perhaps thousands, of posts on CD from those expressing these concerns. In recent years the Democratic Party has swung far, far to the left, and is now under the control of radicals, the so called Progressives, and the ideology of progressives IS Marxist, whether or not others choose to realize and accept this. American Conservatives fear that the US is rapidly becoming, at best, a clone of one of the Euro Socialist nations, or, at worst, a new Soviet Union.
No, those fears are not real. In the main,they are trumped up theories from political opportunists or entertainment shows like Limbaugh and Beck to generate ratings and revenue. They are making a ton of money by scaring you guys into believing these loony theories.

Calling Obama a Marxist just shows that you don't know what Marxism really is. To think that America is on its way to becoming a new Soviet Union is just detached from reality. Honestly, the level of self-delusion with people who tout nullification or Communists in Congress is appalling and sad.

There is a reason these views are confined to one small corner of the conservative party, with the rest of that conservative party laughing at you behind closed doors. I apologize to you for the harshness of my comments, but it really is sad to see you spend your entire life waiting for the communist take-over of America. It reminds me of the Armageddon believers trudging up to the top of hill every few years to await the end of the world. It never happens, and then they credit their prayers with saving the world.

What a way to live...
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Old 08-11-2010, 08:49 AM
 
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It's about time that socialists be purged from American government. Instead of being in Washington they should be serving in jail at their own costs.
And once you've purged your little garden of Eden of all the so called socialists who's next on the list? sounds like an ultimate goal of blond blue eyed elitist conformists,hhmm were have i heard that dream of utopia before
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:02 AM
 
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Seriously, when you guys tout theories like this, all it does is show how far off from the center you are. Communist Congressmen, nullification, Obama being a Marxist, etc., are nothing but loony fringe beliefs. If you honestly believe these things, it just shows you are not a serious political thinker.

Now, if you don't want to be considered serious, that's fine. But in the real world, even conservative Republicans think these ideas are crazy. But in a way, you do your movement a lot of damage when you revere Rush and Beck over legitimate political thinkers like George Will.

Just an FYI.
Nice try.

I will press forward on this despite your name calling and tin foil descriptions.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Default Paranoid much?

I bet you loved the McCarthy era. Find something valid to apply your free floating anger against rather than making crap up.
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