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Old 08-11-2010, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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^ To add, general welfare clause goes beyond the preamble, and into Article I, section 8.
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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^ To add, general welfare clause goes beyond the preamble, and into Article I, section 8.
Love the general welfare BS clause. As useless and vague as the interstate commerce one. General welfare was not considered in the crash of 1873 and the depression of 1920, yet we survived those just fine.
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I think the President is working with the desperate, for the votes.
Fixed.
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:21 PM
 
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Unless you are in the apartment business.

This is just the latest example of government artifically and arbitrarily interfering in people's lives. It never works.

Matter of fact, that's why the economy collapsed in the first place. Govt interfering in the housing market.

Exactly , the Kennedy's and then the clintons with their 'fair 'credit bills . Forced banks to lend money to any deadbeat or illegal who walked in .

Gave special incentives and no tax to foreigners to open business . Why do you think 98% of stores and motels are owned by them ? Plus many other small business is owned by some who shouldn't even be here because they are not citizens.

Go to any other nation and try to open up shop ,most your not even allowed to own land, like mexico ,canada .

You think theres not a reason behind all this ?

You think it's an accident that most foreigners have jobs and have taken over our medical professions, engeneering and own most our credit card , loan and media companys now ?

Go back to sleep because your nightmares are just begining . Go watch the damn game or check out Brit Spears or Mel Gibson ,see whats up with 'Surviver '.

We visited my hubbys brother a few years ,his wife couldn'nt even visit with us because she was too involved in Surviver and soem other lala land thing that came on . Go to anyones house now and the tv is on while your talking .
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:29 PM
 
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Well let us see, if you end up dealing with the reality that many of these folks are, perhaps we can talk about "responsibility" then?
I have lived in hardship, don't assume to know me.
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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Adding $50K to an already overwhelming loan does not sound like a good idea to me.
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Here
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Adding $50K to an already overwhelming loan does not sound like a good idea to me.
When you live in Fantasy Land with Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the crew, it sounds like a FANTASTIC idea!
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Old 08-11-2010, 06:35 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Guess she was right after all.


YouTube - Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!!
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:05 PM
 
Location: NC
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Love the general welfare BS clause. As useless and vague as the interstate commerce one. General welfare was not considered in the crash of 1873 and the depression of 1920, yet we survived those just fine.
Please explain (do you mean 1930 btw?) In fact there are cases of the Supreme Court telling FDR during the Depression he actually 'over stepped' his bounds of General Welfare clause, but other times they supported him.

1873, well that one was Europes fault, and the reactions to the crisis (or lack of) is one reason many economists say it was the "longest downturn in the US ever." Yeah, longer then the Great Depression and it cost President Grant his career because the people thought "he had no policies to help the country out." Also the rise of "protectionism" is cited as one of the main causes of the international crisis (hear that tarrff supporters?) which lead to massive debt/deflation crisis.

Oh, and things congress did to try and fix the issue (took awhile due to vetos): inflation and rail road infrastructure. Many experts say if they started fighting deflation early on and didn't get stuck in vetoes, it would have not have lasted as long as it did.
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Please explain (do you mean 1930 btw?) In fact there are cases of the Supreme Court telling FDR during the Depression he actually 'over stepped' his bounds of General Welfare clause a few times, but other times they supported him.

1873, well that one was Europes fault, and the reactions to the crisis (or lack of) is one reason many economists say it was the "longest downturn in the US ever." Yeah, longer then the Great Depression and it cost President Grant his career because the people thought "he had no policies to help the country out." Also the rise of "protectionism" is cited as one of the main causes of the international crisis (hear that tarrff supporters?) which lead to massive debt/deflation crisis.

Oh, and things congress did to try and fix the issue (took awhile due to vetos): inflation and rail road infrastructure.
No, there was a sharp Depression in 1920.
Of course not taught in K-12. Only the Great Depression with the savior FDR (socialist policies are great) is taught to kids these days.
Depression of 1920
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