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Old 08-16-2010, 06:36 AM
 
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What do the RW haters that oppose religious freedom, except when it's Christianity, suggest we do..go tear them down?

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One mosque is conservative, and the other is reputed to be among the most progressive in the city — making the downtown Muslim community a quintessentially New York combination of immigrants and native New Yorkers, traditionalists and spiritual seekers.
But what the two mosques have in common — besides the sense of celebration and camaraderie that comes at the beginning of Ramadan, the holiest month of the Islamic calendar, in which Muslims fast from sunup to sundown, give alms and focus on self-improvement — is that both have existed for decades, largely unnoticed, blocks from the World Trade Center site.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/ny...ml?_r=1&src=mv
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:41 AM
 
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What do the RW haters that oppose religious freedom, except when it's Christianity, suggest we do..go tear them down?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/ny...ml?_r=1&src=mv
You know they would if they could!
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:44 AM
 
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You know they would if they could!

Yes I know. In fact, many of the more extreme would like to establish Christianity as our "official" religion and ban everything else...except for Judaism of course.
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:45 AM
 
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How many churches are there near ground zero?
Are they community centers or churches?
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:47 AM
 
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What do the RW haters that oppose religious freedom, except when it's Christianity, suggest we do..go tear them down?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/ny...ml?_r=1&src=mv
Your looking stupid here Upton. Read up on this issue .
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:56 AM
 
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How many churches are there near ground zero?
Are they community centers or churches?
A quick search turned up 25

churches in lower manhattan - Google Maps

And I realize the proposed mosque is actually part of a community center....tell the media that.
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:00 AM
 
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You know they would if they could!

Oh yes, those crazy nutjobs are just sitting in the dark waiting to go tear down a mosque!

I actually found your posts in the other thread, MQ, pretty smart and intelligent. But this one post, just showed your true colors...Sorry!
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:04 AM
 
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How many churches are there near ground zero?
Are they community centers or churches?
Directly to the east on Church Street is St. Paul's, a chapel of Trinity Church and the oldest public building in Manhattan still in use. It was used after 9/11 to feed and provide care to emergency workers, who slept on the pews between going out to work on the pile. It's no longer used for services, but is open to the public for prayer and contains displays--letters, photos, other items--from those days.

One block east and three blocks south is Trinity Church, at the foot of Wall. A church has been on the site since the 18th century, but the present neo-gothic structure (and it is gorgeous) was built in the mid-nineteenth century. Trinity is a force for social justice in lower Manhattan, running a homeless shelter and soup kitchen in the area. They support the mosque.

Also on Church Street but three blocks north of the WTC is St. Peter's Church, the oldest Catholic parish in Manhattan. Outside this church is displayed the steel "cross" pulled from the rubble during the recovery. The priest from St. Peter's supports the mosque.

To the west, across 9A (West Street and in the Battery Park City co-op residences there is St. Joseph's, a small chapel of St. Peter's.

There are other churches in the area, but these are the ones within a five-minute walk of the World Trade Center site.

In addition to those, there will be St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church. St. Nicholas was a 150-year-old church one block south of the World Trade Center, on Cedar Street. It was crushed out of existence by the fall of the south tower. It will be rebuilt in its place after the property is no longer need for staging and construction operations for the vehicular security center that will go beneath the new WTC complex.
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:14 AM
 
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Oh yes, those crazy nutjobs are just sitting in the dark waiting to go tear down a mosque!

I actually found your posts in the other thread, MQ, pretty smart and intelligent. But this one post, just showed your true colors...Sorry!
That's pretty sad, or funny, depends upon how you look at it--that in your mind a one-liner can wipe out posts you previously thought were intelligent.

Just exactly what are my "true colors?" It sounds as if you have some assumptions. Just curious, because I've noticed this oddity on CD where people like to divide into "liberal" and "conservative". I pretty much lean toward conservative. I just don't like bigotry.

But please explain to me what you find odd about my response. People who are opposed to freedom of religion might very well be inclined to destroy a house of worship that wasn't theirs. It's happened over and over in history, including in this country.
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:15 AM
 
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Directly to the east on Church Street is St. Paul's, a chapel of Trinity Church and the oldest public building in Manhattan still in use. It was used after 9/11 to feed and provide care to emergency workers, who slept on the pews between going out to work on the pile. It's no longer used for services, but is open to the public for prayer and contains displays--letters, photos, other items--from those days.

One block east and three blocks south is Trinity Church, at the foot of Wall. A church has been on the site since the 18th century, but the present neo-gothic structure (and it is gorgeous) was built in the mid-nineteenth century. Trinity is a force for social justice in lower Manhattan, running a homeless shelter and soup kitchen in the area. They support the mosque.

Also on Church Street but three blocks north of the WTC is St. Peter's Church, the oldest Catholic parish in Manhattan. Outside this church is displayed the steel "cross" pulled from the rubble during the recovery. The priest from St. Peter's supports the mosque.

To the west, across 9A (West Street and in the Battery Park City co-op residences there is St. Joseph's, a small chapel of St. Peter's.

There are other churches in the area, but these are the ones within a five-minute walk of the World Trade Center site.

In addition to those, there will be St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church. St. Nicholas was a 150-year-old church one block south of the World Trade Center, on Cedar Street. It was crushed out of existence by the fall of the south tower. It will be rebuilt in its place after the property is no longer need for staging and construction operations for the vehicular security center that will go beneath the new WTC complex.

What! A Greek Orthodox Church will be built close to the hallowed ground of Ground Zero? I am appalled and outraged! Will these Foreign Religions stop at nothing?

By the by: I do admire those political leaders (Mayor Bloomberg, President Obama, et al) who are keeping level-headed about this issue, and refusing to pander to the 'Moral Majority' (since I saw some poll about how the majority of Americans are against the building of the mosque/community center). It would be so easy for a politician of either party to simply jump on the outrage bandwagon ('cough, Gingrich, cough') and lead the people down the path of religious intolerance.
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