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Old 01-06-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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The Muslims who died in the towers were westernized, undboutedly considered "infidels" as well. And if not, then it's an honor to die for Allah and they did those Muslims a huge favor.

Sick minds think that way.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I don't think Muslims are tolerant. In small numbers they don't have clout but once they get a significant number then they start using their numbers to push for changes.

Just look at Europe for an example. As their numbers grow so will their clout.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You should be, considering the history of violence in this nation.

Once you have filtered out the evil muslims you will still have angry Americans looking for a bone to pick or a building to implode.



Yep...

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Old 01-06-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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Muslims, not Americans, are religious bigots | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Muslims-not-Americans-are-religious-bigots--101125989.html - broken link)

This new argument from the Left that America must "prove" it is not religiously bigoted toward Islam by allowing this disgraceful mosque oh sorry, community center, to be built near Ground Zero, is bogus. America proves it every day in the thousands of mosques that have already been built here peacefully and by the fact that there have been no acts of violence against the many thousands of Muslims who live here after one of their freaks murders innocents in the name of Islam (e.g. Ford Hood murderer).

As far as I'm concerned, it is Islam that must prove to the rest of the world that they are truly peaceful and not religiously bigoted against 'infidels'.

As far as I can tell, Islam has proven itself to be an epic FAIL in that department.
An epic fail and an epi.....demic
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:12 AM
 
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I don't think Muslims are tolerant. In small numbers they don't have clout but once they get a significant number then they start using their numbers to push for changes.

Just look at Europe for an example. As their numbers grow so will their clout.
It took the Crusades to stop their rape of Europe.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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You should amend that to say, "My point is that they don't do it today in the name of Christianity..."

Because, you know, torturing people to death, hanging them, burning them, running them through with a sword... all in the name of Christianity, sending their "heathen souls" to hell... I'm rather certain that their victims weren't anywhere near as concerned with WHAT they were saying, or even WHY, as they were with the pain and horror of being slaughtered by them.

No, Christians just do things like plan "Burn Quran Day"... thus ensuring we can give even more Muslims reason to hate us.

Apparently Fred Phelps and his Westboro Whackos have company now.

And here's the thing, ladies and gents... if you can't separate most followers of Islam from the psychotic and violent extremists... why on earth would you expect anyone to separate YOU from the psychotic and violent extremists hijacking YOUR religion and using it to further promote violence, hatred and discontent?

If my Muslim neighbors, friends and co-workers are somehow responsible for the terrorists, if the actions of the terrorists reflect on them... then the actions of whackjobs like Phelps and Jones is just as much YOUR responsibility, and reflects just as much on you.

Why aren't YOU stopping these nutjobs from hijacking your religion? People ask the peaceful Muslims (which far outnumber the terrorists) why they can't/won't/don't stop their bad seeds... but for some reason, Christians get a pass when it comes to stopping theirs.

How does that work exactly?

How does that work? It might....and I stress MIGHT just have something to do with the fact that Muslims flew planes into buildings in the name of their religion. Conducting protests, as asinine as those protests are, does not compare to terrorist attacks and your weak attempt to make the comparison is lame at best. FYI: I'm an atheist so I am not defending "my religion" by any stretch.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:43 AM
 
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I don't think Muslims are tolerant. In small numbers they don't have clout but once they get a significant number then they start using their numbers to push for changes.

Just look at Europe for an example. As their numbers grow so will their clout.
You might well say this about any group of people.

People like to see their standards, their culture, as the prevalent culture. When they have enough numbers, they push for that.

Using your argument, you might just as well say the Republicans are intolerant.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You might well say this about any group of people.

People like to see their standards, their culture, as the prevalent culture. When they have enough numbers, they push for that.

Using your argument, you might just as well say the Republicans are intolerant.
Yes, any group with big enough numbers can influence changes.
Every single document printed by the USG comes in both English and Spanish.

Amnesty looms over our heads just waiting for the right Congress/President to sign.

I wouldn't limit it to just Republicans. Too strong of a political affiliation clouds ones judgment. Instead of seeing something as right or wrong for itself they stick with their party regardless.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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Yes, any group with big enough numbers can influence changes.
Every single document printed by the USG comes in both English and Spanish.

Amnesty looms over our heads just waiting for the right Congress/President to sign.

I wouldn't limit it to just Republicans. Too strong of a political affiliation clouds ones judgment. Instead of seeing something as right or wrong for itself they stick with their party regardless.
That's my point. I'm not limiting it to Republicans. I'm not limiting it to Muslims. I'm saying that bigotry is not just about wanting the society's values to reflect your own values.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That's my point. I'm not limiting it to Republicans. I'm not limiting it to Muslims. I'm saying that bigotry is not just about wanting the society's values to reflect your own values.
Tolerance is peaceful co-existence.
The ME is driven by religion in all aspects of their life and in war.

That, to me, is bigotry and we should all that we can to make sure that NEVER happens here in the US.
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