Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the rights of individual states to choose whether or not they want abortion to be legal, and if so, how easily accessible, as is guaranteed by the 10th Amendment. Likewise they would respect the states' rights to choose whether or not they want to recognize homosexual marriage.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support a state's right to choose to secure its own borders, especially when drug cartels are running rampant through the state and federal government failed to do anything about it.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to donate money to the poor, which groups to donate money to, and how much money to donate.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to purchase health insurance, and if so, what type of health insurance to purchase.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of a private financial institution to choose not to lend someone money, who they know would never be able to pay it back, irregardless of their race, creed, gender, etc.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of Americans to choose not to have a Mosque built on the grave of 3,000 innocent people slaughtered in the name of Allah.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to fund stem cell research.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose to send your children to private school.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to join their corrupt labor unions.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to vote for them, rather than steal elections when the vote isn't in their favor.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose what type of engine you want in your car, what type of light bulbs you want in your lights, what kind of toilet you want in your bathroom, what kind of showerhead you want in your shower, etc.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would respect your decision to choose not to be a liberal.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the rights of individual states to choose whether or not they want abortion to be legal, and if so, how easily accessible, as is guaranteed by the 10th Amendment. Likewise they would respect the states' rights to choose whether or not they want to recognize homosexual marriage.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support a state's right to choose to secure its own borders, especially when drug cartels are running rampant through the state and federal government failed to do anything about it.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to donate money to the poor, which groups to donate money to, and how much money to donate.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to purchase health insurance, and if so, what type of health insurance to purchase.
can not rep you enough
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of a private financial institution to choose not to lend someone money, who they know would never be able to pay it back, irregardless of their race, creed, gender, etc.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of Americans to choose not to have a Mosque built on the grave of 3,000 innocent people slaughtered in the name of Allah.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to fund stem cell research.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose to send your children to private school.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to join their corrupt labor unions.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to vote for them, rather than steal elections when the vote isn't in their favor.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose what type of engine you want in your car, what type of light bulbs you want in your lights, what kind of toilet you want in your bathroom, what kind of showerhead you want in your shower, etc.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would respect your decision to choose not to be a liberal.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the rights of individual states to choose whether or not they want abortion to be legal, and if so, how easily accessible, as is guaranteed by the 10th Amendment. Likewise they would respect the states' rights to choose whether or not they want to recognize homosexual marriage.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support a state's right to choose to secure its own borders, especially when drug cartels are running rampant through the state and federal government failed to do anything about it.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to donate money to the poor, which groups to donate money to, and how much money to donate.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to purchase health insurance, and if so, what type of health insurance to purchase.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of a private financial institution to choose not to lend someone money, who they know would never be able to pay it back, irregardless of their race, creed, gender, etc.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of Americans to choose not to have a Mosque built on the grave of 3,000 innocent people slaughtered in the name of Allah.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to fund stem cell research.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose to send your children to private school.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to join their corrupt labor unions.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to vote for them, rather than steal elections when the vote isn't in their favor.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose what type of engine you want in your car, what type of light bulbs you want in your lights, what kind of toilet you want in your bathroom, what kind of showerhead you want in your shower, etc.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would respect your decision to choose not to be a liberal.
There is a libertarian argument to be made about states rights when it came to segregation and civil rights also.
But, in cases like that, where there are huge effects across the country, the federal government has the right to protect the individual rights of its citizens, from the states if need be.
On the same tone as your thread. If you support individual rights so much, then perhaps you should worry about your own body, and not someone elses?
If conservatives were truly pro-state, they would have continued to allow the states to make the call on the second ammendment.
Oh, I see......
You're in over your head Pandamonium.
The Constitution is the Constitution and state can't just choose to ignore an Amendment that they don't like. If it's in the Constitution all states have to follow it.
What we do allow is for states to choose the extent to which they regulate guns. This is why in NY you can't even touch a handgun without a permit, and in UT you can openly carry a handgun without a permit.
You accidentally let out a common Liberal belief though: That the Constitution only ought to be followed when it is convenient to Liberals.
There is a libertarian argument to be made about states rights when it came to segregation and civil rights also.
But, in cases like that, where there are huge effects across the country, the federal government has the right to protect the individual rights of its citizens, from the states if need be.
On the same tone as your thread. If you support individual rights so much, then perhaps you should worry about your own body, and not someone elses?
Of all the replies that is the best smackdown of the OP, the highlighted and bolded part is the best
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the rights of individual states to choose whether or not they want abortion to be legal, and if so, how easily accessible, as is guaranteed by the 10th Amendment. Likewise they would respect the states' rights to choose whether or not they want to recognize homosexual marriage. Certain rights are reserved for states and others for individuals under the 10th amendment. States cannot choose to throw people in jail for critiquing the legislatures, nor can states choose to abolish free elections in their respective jurisdictions. What you have described here are individual rights issues not states rights issues.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support a state's right to choose to secure its own borders, especially when drug cartels are running rampant through the state and federal government failed to do anything about it. Controlling immigration(naturalization) is the domain of the federal government according to art.1 sec.8 of the constitution
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to donate money to the poor, which groups to donate money to, and how much money to donate. I do not recall any laws saying you cannot donate money to charities (except those supporting terrorism). If you are referring to the government's ability to levy taxes that is covered under art.1 sec.8 and the 16th amendment to the constitution.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to purchase health insurance, and if so, what type of health insurance to purchase. I don't disagree with you here.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of a private financial institution to choose not to lend someone money, who they know would never be able to pay it back, irregardless of their race, creed, gender, etc. Private institutions have the right to discriminate in regard to a person's credit. I really do not know what you are talking about.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support the right of Americans to choose not to have a Mosque built on the grave of 3,000 innocent people slaughtered in the name of Allah. The Mosque/community center is built on private land with private funds. The 14th amendment of the constitution protects against takings of property without due process. So far as I can tell preventing a project on private land that adheres to zoning laws w/o compinsation does seem to constitute unlawful takings of property.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose whether or not to fund stem cell research. Absolutely, if a grant writer can make a good argument for getting a research grant about stem-cells there is no reason the government should quash it.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose to send your children to private school. Wait. When did private schools become illegal?
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to join their corrupt labor unions. I don't know about this issue enough to know if people are or are not forced to join labor unions.
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose not to vote for them, rather than steal elections when the vote isn't in their favor. Last time I check we had free elections. Do you have any proof of an election being rigged?
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would support your right to choose what type of engine you want in your car, what type of light bulbs you want in your lights, what kind of toilet you want in your bathroom, what kind of showerhead you want in your shower, etc. Are there laws that prevent you from choosing any of those things?
If liberals truly were pro-choice, they would respect your decision to choose not to be a liberal.
You can be Monarchist for all I care. No one is going to stop you.
Last edited by Randomstudent; 09-06-2010 at 01:07 PM..
The Constitution is the Constitution and state can't just choose to ignore an Amendment that they don't like. If it's in the Constitution all states have to follow it.
What we do allow is for states to choose the extent to which they regulate guns. This is why in NY you can't even touch a handgun without a permit, and in UT you can openly carry a handgun without a permit.
You accidentally let out a common Liberal belief though: That the Constitution only ought to be followed when it is convenient to Liberals.
Freudian slip?
Try again.
Only that which has been incorporated applies to the you and I of it.
Please look that up. The second amendment was not incorporated until the end of this summer. So, having said that. I find it interesting that "conservatives" are only interested in the picking and choosing of that which applies.
The responsibility for securing our nation’s borders belongs to the federal government. For about 20 years they have been woefully negligent in their duties.
Personally I have no problem with choosing to donate to the poor, or not, most people don't. I'm not sure what's the point of your rant on this issue.
Under the new health insurance plan you have the choice of not buying health insurance. Just be sure not to forget to pay the fine. It may actually be cheaper than paying for actual health insurance. Don’t like the new health insurance plan then try to get enough people to agree and get it changed.
A lending institution has the right to either approve or decline a person's access to financial capital strictly on their ability to pay. Using factors such as race, gender, national origin, ethnicity etc. is discriminatory. As long as lending institutions are obeying the law in that regard I could care less who they lend money to.
Sorry there is this little thing called the United States Constitution which guarantees Americans the right to practice their religion. That's the basis for law. You don't get to tell somebody they can't practice their religion on land they brought and paid for and was approved by the local community board simply because YOU don't like it. Even if there is a majority that doesn't like it. That's not a Liberal issue it's a constitutional one.
If the government decides not fund stem cell research and you don't like it then elect government officials that agree with you. That was exactly what happened when George W. Bush Jr. was President. Obviously the American people decided to elect a President who supported this research. So A CHOICE was made in the last election, thank you very much.
I could care less where you send your children to school.
I completely support people's right not to join labor unions.
Not sure what you are talking about when it comes to stealing elections.
I could care less what type of engine you want your car V-6, V-8, electric, hybrid knock yourself out.
I hope you enjoyed yourself and got a lot off your chest. Thanks for sharing.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
can not rep you enough
