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Old 09-16-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I said, "the bank is gonna buy my house with an obviously bad debt instrument"?
You made the first mistake *(unknowingly) - and committed a fraud, by signing the promissory note denominated in "dollars".

Dollars have not circulated since 1933.

What you might have done - was to revoke your signature on the note. Now that you know that there are no dollars, you want to rectify the mistake.
Coyly ask them what they lent to you of value, so that you can return it to them.

:-)

FRNs (or extensions of credit) have no par value at law.

OOPS.

(I do not advise trying to "rob" thieves. An acquaintance successfully walked away from a six figure mortgage. But was found, seven months later, in a crippled condition, no witnesses... There's a reason why Ezekiel 18:13 KJV is so critical of usurers.)
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Wow, paper money = I.O.U.s. Tell me when we start to have fun and the river begins to flow down.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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It is not you they are interested in; it is your personal assets, which you have pledged as collateral to pay for the nations debts, when you voluntarily applied for a Social Security number. But this is something few know, or are even willing to try to understand.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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It is not you they are interested in; it is your personal assets, which you have pledged as collateral to pay for the nations debts, when you voluntarily applied for a Social Security number. But this is something few know, or are even willing to try to understand.
I'd love to understand it. My daughter, she talks to me and I tell her, dear...your up and over your mom's head here.

She has spoken to me concerning, common law, I.O.U.s and we are born with a dollar amount of value? What else does she tell me?

She doesn't mind spending dollars as they are just a piece of paper that represents the I.O.U. that is set up by common law and the federal government.

On some level I get it, but for some reason, I have a tough time with the technicalities of it all. However, I am very much interested in following this thread. It may lead me to a better understanding or at least where to go for this knowledge.

I started a thread based on some things that my daughter had said to me. The thread died though and no one responded, so I just basically thought all was n/a.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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I'd love to understand it. My daughter, she talks to me and I tell her, dear...your up and over your mom's head here.

She has spoken to me concerning, common law, I.O.U.s and we are born with a dollar amount of value? What else does she tell me?

She doesn't mind spending dollars as they are just a piece of paper that represents the I.O.U. that is set up by common law and the federal government.

On some level I get it, but for some reason, I have a tough time with the technicalities of it all. However, I am very much interested in following this thread. It may lead me to a better understanding or at least where to go for this knowledge.

I started a thread based on some things that my daughter had said to me. The thread died though and no one responded, so I just basically thought all was n/a.
There is plenty of information on the subject online. Simply google your questions. You might start by checking out Congressman Mc Fadden, and Congressman Lindberg. That will be a real eye opener if you are not familiar with their battles against the Federal Reserve and Income Tax / Social Security Acts. Learn as much a possible,teach others, and perhaps you can help to make a better world for your daughter.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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The beginning to fix this problem is to eliminate the Fed and make it the operation of the government to print money and make our loans and so forth.
Get the banks out of the governments business.
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: NC
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I went to my own foreclosure sale once, armed with 21 silver dollars. Threw 'em on the table and said, "Welp, looks like I'm high bidder", and the bank's female lawyer started screeching. So I asked her who she thought the high bidder was, and she said, "the bank". I reminded her that State law required the bidders to have cash, lawful money of the United States at the time of the foreclosure sale. Then she started really screeching, something about negotiable instruments, and flailing her arms. So, I asked her where the bank's negotiable instrument was, and she said it was the note financing my home loan. I said, "the bank is gonna buy my house with an obviously bad debt instrument"? She said, "yeah"!

So, I said, "OK, where is it"?

Then, she started making underbreath intense sounds while her eyes got all buggy and the veins in her neck and face started pulsating.

Tried to get this on video, but my friend (witness) didn't have one.
And what was the outcome of this whole venture?
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Old 09-19-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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And what was the outcome of this whole venture?
Long story, didn't have the "where-with-all" to take it to the supreme court, but to this day there is a cloud on the title.

The bank keeps playing this song over and over -


YouTube - The Rolling Stones - Get Off of My Cloud (1967)
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The beginning to fix this problem ... make it the operation of the government to print money and make our loans and so forth.
Get the banks out of the governments business.
ABSOLUTELY NOT.

There is NO DELEGATION of power to the government to create money.

READ the USConstitution.
Congress only has power to coin money (stamp bullion) or borrow money. If it had the power to create it, why borrow it?
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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And what was the outcome of this whole venture?
I was about 20 years ahead of my time.

But now . .

Legal chaos forces US banks to halt repossessions - Business News, Business - The Independent
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