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View Poll Results: In the long run, liberal ideas:
Always win 4 7.84%
Usually win 21 41.18%
Sometimes win 7 13.73%
Rarely win 9 17.65%
Never win 10 19.61%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-16-2010, 11:07 PM
 
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Civil rights laws
Women's right to vote
Minimum wage
Social security
Multi-culturalism
Integration of the military
Integration of schools
Interracial marriage
Interfaith marriage
Public education system
Medicare
Medicaid
Labor unions
FDIC
Federal Reserve
Public health clinics
Secularism
Sexual freedom
Abortion rights
Birth control

All of these things have been opposed by conservatives, and in the long run, they lost. Can anyone argue with the fact that liberalism always (or usually) wins?

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Old 09-16-2010, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Communism=loss
Socialism=loss
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:16 PM
 
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Conservative ideas will always brush up against the universal truth that things change. Hence, conservative ideas, specifically those that fight any forward movement, are doomed. Liberal ideas are born out of embracing the concept of change and represent the only rational approach. This doesn't mean that liberal ideas are always right or even better, just that there will always be enough of them to assure eventual success. Conservatives won't offer new ideas and they are distrustful of compromise. They are too busy complaining about the change around them to consider for a second that such change is not only necessary, but ultimately inevitable.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:20 PM
 
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Conservative ideas will always brush up against the universal truth that things change. Hence, conservative ideas, specifically those that fight any forward movement, are doomed. Liberal ideas are born out of embracing the concept of change and represent the only rational approach. This doesn't mean that liberal ideas are always right or even better, just that there will always be enough of them to assure eventual success. Conservatives wouldn't even consider suggesting new ideas because it is not in their nature to compromise. They are too busy complaining about the change around them to consider that such change is not only inevitable but sometimes necessary.
Great response. I've often wondered how conservatives deal with life in a free society such as ours that is always striving toward giving its citizens more rights and more freedom. I would think it would be hellish for them. They must have to live in a state of denial because the world around them is always changing, and they're almost always losing their battles.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:21 PM
 
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Liberal ideas are usually on the winning side because LIBERalism is about LIBERty and LIBERation.

Simple as that. CONservative ideas are usually about restriction while they claim to be for freedom hence the CON in conservative.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:26 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Leftism is dying out,it relies upon the labors of others to bribe it's supporters.

As to the list,it is as big a lie as the list of Muslim inventions we had...
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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Civil rights laws
Women's right to vote
Minimum wage
Social security
Multi-culturalism
Integration of the military
Integration of schools
Interracial marriage
Interfaith marriage
Public education system
Medicare
Medicaid
Labor unions
FDIC
Federal Reserve
Public health clinics
Secularism
Sexual freedom
Abortion rights
Birth control

All of these things have been opposed by conservatives, and in the long run, they lost. Can anyone argue with the fact that liberalism always (or usually) wins?
What a left wing rant. Liberals are enlightened tolerant multicultural progressive intelligent individuals and Conservatives are all evil or a bunch of bigots. Another thing is that you seem to be confusing traditionalists with conservatives. Traditionalists concentrate on the past. Progressives concentrate on change. Conservatives concentrate on truth, law, order and religion/philosophy (God).
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:36 AM
 
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Conservative ideas will always brush up against the universal truth that things change. Hence, conservative ideas, specifically those that fight any forward movement, are doomed. Liberal ideas are born out of embracing the concept of change and represent the only rational approach. This doesn't mean that liberal ideas are always right or even better, just that there will always be enough of them to assure eventual success. Conservatives won't offer new ideas and they are distrustful of compromise. They are too busy complaining about the change around them to consider for a second that such change is not only necessary, but ultimately inevitable.
You're confusing Traditionalists with Conservatives.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:40 AM
 
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Liberal ideas are usually on the winning side because LIBERalism is about LIBERty and LIBERation.

Simple as that. CONservative ideas are usually about restriction while they claim to be for freedom hence the CON in conservative.
You maybe right about Conservatives but you are delluding yourself if you believe that about liberals.

"There is no more left/right conundrum. Now it is simply Libertarian vs. Authoritarian. Democrats and Republicans have been preaching the same goals for generations. Just from different perspectives. The American people have been duped. Since both parties are basically the same, no matter which one is in power, the true Libertarian principles of our forefathers will never raise its head again because the actual Libertarian base never gets any real choice for people in office."

Welcome to the Revolution
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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And therein lies the problem; seeing politics as a game of sorts when one team wins and one loses.
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