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A former senior elections clerk in Honolulu maintains there is no birth certificate generated by the hospital on file with the Hawaii Dept. of Health and that “neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapiolani Medical Center has any record that Obama was born there."
yep. tim adams.
he never had access to anyones birth records ( besides his own and possibly immediate family ) nor anyone in his office had access. if he was "senior" or "temp" is subjective but..... it seems the man worked less than 6 months in the position . make your own observation. he also left that position before the DNC.
he also never had any access to obama's voting information ( obama has never registered in hawaii ).
tim adams' first interview was with a white-supremacist radio show. he back-tracked a bit in his next interview and........ has been more or less quiet since.
Who are you pretending to be quoting there? Hint: It's not Abercrombie.
Abercrombie has said he is searching to find a way to release more information. The existence of the birth certificate is already part of the official record. But even the Governor must obey the law. And if it says he can't release it... guess what?
Who are you quoting here? If it's Abercrombie, can you give us a direct link to that? Just because "the existence of it" is part of the "official record", where does it exist, exactly, and why doesn't the Governor know that?
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude
Let's pretend for a second this is true. So what?
Only three of our presidents were born in a hospital.
Who cares? Just trying to look at both sides of this. You seem to think I'm arguing for or against. I would like to know the truth either way. Those here arguing that it exists haven't succeeded in proving that it does.
I'm merely puzzled that Obama hasn't put this to rest, if there isn't any substance to it as the left keeps saying. And if there isn't, then why does a Democrat Governor raise the issue once again at this late date. He must not know what everybody here seems to know. Too bad he doesn't read C-D.
It would ble soooo easy to close the book on it. Why doesn't Obama do it?
Who are you quoting here? If it's Abercrombie, can you give us a direct link to that? Just because "the existence of it" is part of the "official record", where does it exist, exactly, and why doesn't the Governor know that?
You may have noticed... there were no quotations at all in my account there. This is because unlike WND (and apparently you) I do not create fake quotations.
If you want to hear what he said in his own words (as opposed to your fake quotations) go here:
Who cares? Just trying to look at both sides of this. You seem to think I'm arguing for or against. I would like to know the truth either way. Those here arguing that it exists haven't succeeded in proving that it does.
If this were true, you wouldn't be making up fake quotations that support only the Birther side of the issue.
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I'm merely puzzled that Obama hasn't put this to rest, if there isn't any substance to it as the left keeps saying.
He did. 2 and a half years ago.
And we see how well that worked.
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Originally Posted by southward bound
It would ble soooo easy to close the book on it. Why doesn't Obama do it?
The movement should only die if and when Obama's information is made public and he is determined to be eligible - which is highly improbable as the man he states is his father was never a US citizen.
To date, we have only his word as to who he is and it's appalling that that's considered acceptable. A computer generated certificate of live birth isn't proof of anything. We have no school/college records (grades,tuition payments?), no medical records, no passport records, no birth certificate and highly suspect social security/selective service records. He supposedly was adopted by his mother's 2nd husband - he used the name Soetoro at one time, where are the adoption records?
There is really no proof that his so-called "parents" were even married or ever lived together. Those are facts. If you have information to the contrary that can be documented as legitimate please provide it. Obama's words are not proof.
Why would any US citizen of any party ever be content to simply take the word of any candidate that they are eligible for the highest office in the land? The public has the right to know just what he's hiding and why. Our very future depends on it and we had better take the actions necessary to make sure that this never ever happens again.
You may have noticed... there were no quotations at all in my account there. This is because unlike WND (and apparently you) I do not create fake quotations.
If you want to hear what he said in his own words (as opposed to your fake quotations) go here:
If this were true, you wouldn't be making up fake quotations that support only the Birther side of the issue.
He did. 2 and a half years ago.
And we see how well that worked.
He did. 2 and a half years ago.
It must not be "soooo easy" as you think.
You are trying to use logic and facts with Birthers; it is not within their capacity to deal with either. You are doing well and your patience with them is outstanding, kinda like dealing with pre-schoolers. Or maybe not, the pre-schoolers listen better especially if you keep them away from the sugar, hmmm, maybe that is the problem too much sugar in their diet.
Casper
The movement should only die if and when Obama's information is made public and he is determined to be eligible - which is highly improbable as the man he states is his father was never a US citizen.
To date, we have only his word as to who he is and it's appalling that that's considered acceptable. A computer generated certificate of live birth isn't proof of anything. We have no school/college records (grades,tuition payments?), no medical records, no passport records, no birth certificate and highly suspect social security/selective service records. He supposedly was adopted by his mother's 2nd husband - he used the name Soetoro at one time, where are the adoption records?
There is really no proof that his so-called "parents" were even married or ever lived together. Those are facts. If you have information to the contrary that can be documented as legitimate please provide it. Obama's words are not proof.
Why would any US citizen of any party ever be content to simply take the word of any candidate that they are eligible for the highest office in the land? The public has the right to know just what he's hiding and why. Our very future depends on it and we had better take the actions necessary to make sure that this never ever happens again.
It will never die; the birthers will just keep moving the goalposts.
All this stuff about his school records is just diversion. I couldn't produce anything about tuition receipts, blah, blah. I could produce a transcript, but the birthers would just call anything Obama issued a forgery. Why bother? It's a matter of public record that he attended the schools he says he attended.
There are no adoption records b/c Obama was not adopted by Lolo Soetoro.
If his parents weren't married, that certainly negates the "British Citizen" point, does it not?
A computer generated certificate of live birth isn't proof of anything.
the US state department would beg to differ. the COLB meets with all state department requirements for proof of birth.
welcome to the later part of the 20th century, most legal documents are "computer generated".
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