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Old 09-30-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You know, I can see your stance here, but it goes much further than the simple $75. So we shouldn't expect neighbors to help out either since they weren't paid? If this message that this fire department is sending is taken in by the masses, then nobody would help anyone unless they are paid for the help. Is that how this country should work? No more noble hand lending? I bet there are some of those firemen that live in the area that didn't pay the $75 either because they think they don't have to if they are the ones putting out the fire, but do you think they will let their own house burn down? Never in a million years...
I grew up in an area with a Volunteer Fire Department, and live in a city now that has a VFD.

The thing is, the neighbors do not have the equipment to put out a house fire. A few garden hoses are not going to cut it.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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If they just had this built into their property taxes, everything would be fine. But noooo. They have to play politics. I feel sorry for EVERYONE in that area or area's that have to live like that.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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If they just had this built into their property taxes, everything would be fine. But noooo. They have to play politics. I feel sorry for EVERYONE in that area or area's that have to live like that.
Thanks for your sympthies. BTW, are you or have you ever been a volunteer fire fighter? Your sympathy doesn't do a lot of good with regard to stoping a house fire. I guess that's the urban mentality, if you feel bad about something it'll make it all better.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:47 PM
 
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If they accept taxpayers money they must serve everyone.
If they accept no taxpayer money they should not have an area
They owner should sue and own their trucks
Sueing the fire department is probably the least of this man's concerns at this time.

If he paid his fire insurance, the conversation with them was probably distressful.

Homeowner:
"See I lost everything because I did not pay the Fire Department fee."

Insurance agent:
"So, you are saying we have a total loss, instead of a partial loss, because you did not pay the required fee? You did not do everything you could to mitigate
your damages?"

How do you think the rest of that will go?
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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If they just had this built into their property taxes, everything would be fine. But noooo. They have to play politics. I feel sorry for EVERYONE in that area or area's that have to live like that.
Most county residents get to vote on taxes. Is there a chance that a fire protection tax was put up to vote and failed, thus leaving no other option but the "fee" system in this specific area for those county residents who wanted fire protection?
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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Thanks for your sympthies. BTW, are you or have you ever been a volunteer fire fighter? Your sympathy doesn't do a lot of good with regard to stoping a house fire. I guess that's the urban mentality, if you feel bad about something it'll make it all better.
Urban mentality? I live in the middle of NOWHERE on acres of land. And no, I am not or have never been a vol FF. What does that have to do with a subscription-type system being a bad idea?
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:57 PM
 
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If they accept taxpayers money they must serve everyone.
If they accept no taxpayer money they should not have an area
They owner should sue and own their trucks
I guess they didn't get your memo. They have tax payers in South Fulton that pay taxes and get fire department service. These people obviously live in an unincorporated area or an area with the city government does not provide fire department services. This is common in rural areas or area outside of towns and cities where the tax base is small and resources are limited. This man had the option of paying the fire department service from Sowth Fulton. He didn't and he paid dearly.

Unless there is something specifically written in the laws in the State of Kentucky that mandate a fire department MUST render aid when it is called then the man has no legal grounds for a lawsuit.
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Most county residents get to vote on taxes. Is there a chance that a fire protection tax was put up to vote and failed, thus leaving no other option but the "fee" system in this specific area for those county residents who wanted fire protection?

Probably. If the residents of a county want to keep their property taxes so low as to not have a properly funded fire department, then that is their choice and they have to live with the consequences.

The homeowner made the choice of refusing to pay $6.25/month for fire protection. WOW! That has to be, without a doubt, one of the stupidest decisions I have ever heard. He's lucky he's alive. Mother Nature is usually a lot more cruel when it tries to stamp out stupidity.
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Urban mentality? I live in the middle of NOWHERE on acres of land. And no, I am not or have never been a vol FF. What does that have to do with a subscription-type system being a bad idea?
Is your home serviced by a local fire department?
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Reality
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If they just had this built into their property taxes, everything would be fine. But noooo. They have to play politics. I feel sorry for EVERYONE in that area or area's that have to live like that.
Yes these people likely voted to have a fee based system because of people like this homeowner who didn't see the value in paying for fire service probably because they thought even without paying they would get to take advantage of the services other people paid for. So instead these people get to see exactly where their money goes and what they pay for...

What a say way to live.
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