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Americans embrace their delusions now more than ever.
Ignorance is trump, denial of everything which does not reflect their views.
The future of any nation is only as bright (or as dim) as the general mentality of the population.
It is a good thing some of us actually learn from history and are not willing to let Progressives destroy this Republic without a good fight!
What gets me about people who want to gear/orient us towards a more socialist set-up is that they obviously learned nothing about the USSR. They were a superpower for many years, but the average citizen lived in squalor. Absolute squalor. I guess you wouldn't know that if you never visited. I just went in the 90s (various different cities for a summer) and they still hadn't figured toilet paper out yet. I mean, seriously?
I couldn't abide by the average european's lifestyle, either. Hell to the no.
You people sure is too smart. For a while I didn't think anyone would ever be able to tell that Obama and liberals are actually commies that want America to be like the USSR.
I'm with you guys. Instead of progressive, I want to see America regressive.
So our military which exist for the "common good" is now a bad thing or do we make an exception for this socialist program?
Our military is authorized by the Constitution. Social programs such as welfare and Medicaid are not. Note the difference in the wording:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Our military is authorized by the Constitution. Social programs such as welfare and Medicaid are not. Note the difference in the wording:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
provide: to supply or make available
promote: encourage to exist
So the United States Constitution has a provision for socialism.
Since everyone is required to pay and sign up for selective service, it is a mandated and required, as well as accepted practice that each American citizen engages for the collective good.
So the United States Constitution has a provision for socialism.
Since everyone is required to pay and sign up for selective service, it is a mandated and required, as well as accepted practice that each American citizen engages for the collective good.
Thank you.
The word, "promote", lacks the elements of force or fund.
Or fraud!
I think the Government is funding too many welfare babies.
So the United States Constitution has a provision for socialism.
Since everyone is required to pay and sign up for selective service, it is a mandated and required, as well as accepted practice that each American citizen engages for the collective good.
Thank you.
Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution does not give the federal government unlimited powers to tax and redistribute wealth in the name of "social justice".
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; there would be no reason for the remainder of the Constitution.
We have an extensive thread on CD along with some of the framers quotations dealing with their intended interpretation of that clause.
So the United States Constitution has a provision for socialism.
No. The U.S. Constitution authorizes provision for our military.
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Since everyone is required to pay and sign up for selective service, it is a mandated and required, as well as accepted practice that each American citizen engages for the collective good.
Everyone is required to pay? No. 47% don't pay federal income tax.
Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nearly-half-of-US-households-apf-1105567323.html?x=0 - broken link)
Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution does not give the federal government unlimited powers to tax and redistribute wealth in the name of "social justice". If the government were intended to do anything and everything to "promote the general welfare" there would be no reason for the remainder of the Constitution.
We have an extensive thread on CD along with some of the framers quotations dealing with the interpretation of that clause.
I don't give a damn who said what, if a person is required by the state to provide for the common and collective good of that state then you are engaging in a socialist act.
Sorry, but you're a socialist.
People on the right lose their ever loving minds about being required to pay for the common and collective health care of others because the Constitution doesn't explicitly state they are required to engage in societal socialist programs like health care but think it is fine and dandy because the Constitution requires it in the case of the common and collective defense?
While I understand why many on the right have this issue, they are welcome to do so as fellow socialist Americans that we are and always have been.
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Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution does not give the federal government unlimited powers to tax and redistribute wealth in the name of "social justice". 
