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Old 10-28-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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As an Independent... The past 10 years have been a disaster... The right wing wealthy elitists are seething because they may lose everything that George Bush gave to them on a silver platter at the expense of the middle class...
yes the last 10 years have been hard...but because of liberal policies of the 1990's
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Old 10-29-2010, 07:42 AM
 
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yes the last 10 years have been hard...but because of liberal policies of the 1990's
So why aren't we booming from the policies of the Bush Administration?...
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So why aren't we booming from the policies of the Bush Administration?...
becasue carter/bush1/clinton/bush2/obama....all globalists

bush continued the clinton policies of freetrade and the housing agenda

and now obama is continuing them too

has obama turned back the freetrade agreements thta have cause jobs to go away....nope hehas expanded them

has obama gotten rid of the frannie/freddie problem...nope he allowed them the be EXEMPT from the reform bill...go figure that one

has obama gotten rid of the patriot act.....nope he has expanded it

has obama closed gitmo...nope its still open

has obama gotten rid of warrantless wiretaps...nope he has expanded them
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010

Date Dollar Amount

09/30/2008 -10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 - 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 - 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 - 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 - 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 - 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 - 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 - 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 - 5,674,178,209,886.86

But you see, it's different. Bush had to cut taxes while waging two wars because that made sound fiscal sense. Doubling the debt was the patriotic thing to do during a "time of war." We can also see that cutting taxes for the top tier payed off handsomely by the end of Bush's second term; all one had to do is look at the job reports and our 401ks to see that.

On the other hand we have Obama: Spending tax payer money to stop our country from entering a period of deflation is Socialism. Allowing the Bush tax cuts to end after how much good they've done is pure insanity. He should have just let all the banks fail, letting the economy go down with it, while extending tax cuts for the wealthy for at least another 5 years. This way they could have created even more jobs for us and we could have simply grown our way out of this mess rebuilding the banking system from scratch. You know, pure capitalism.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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wrong as usual. we are NOT ignoring the fact that the debt was doubled under bush, it is the democrats that are ignoring the fact that the debt has gone up $3 trillion in 20 months under obama, and that obamas spending plans will increase the debt by $1 trillion PER YEAR for the next ten years. obama got in office by claiming that the policies of the bush administration were unsustainable, and that he was going to be fiscally responsible. well the policies of the obama administration are truly unsustainable, and this administration is so far from fiscally responsible, he makes bush seem like a piker.
Stole the words right out of my mouth. Can anyone explain to me why some people still support Obama, Pelosi and Reid? I just don't get it?
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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yes the last 10 years have been hard...but because of liberal policies of the 1990's
Yea, so liberal that we had a GOP Congress for over half of that decade and then another 6yrs after that. See how those liberals have worn this country down?
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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Stole the words right out of my mouth. Can anyone explain to me why some people still support Obama, Pelosi and Reid? I just don't get it?
The entire premise is dishonest to say the least. The attackers are taking advantage of an emergency situation, in this case the worst economic downturn since the great depression, and using it to claim the Dems have "out of control" spending. It's not as if he's going on some international shopping spree, he's deficit spending to keep your ungrateful arse out of a soup line. The GOP also ignores other facts, such as Bush basically being forced to do the same thing prior to his exit. If it were McCain and Palin they would have done the exact same thing, there was no way around it.
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Old 10-29-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Yea, so liberal that we had a GOP Congress for over half of that decade and then another 6yrs after that. See how those liberals have worn this country down?
Dead-on commentary from a true conservative. He hasn't seen any evidence that things will be different after election day, either.

"The economy is in the tank and the budget is clearly on an unsustainable path, in large part due to actions taken by Republicans when they were in power. They completely dismantled the deficit controls put in place by the elder Bush and Clinton so that they could cut taxes willy-nilly without paying for them, and in the process thoroughly decimated the government’s capacity to raise adequate revenue to fund its essential functions."

A Rocky Road Awaits the New Republican Majority - TheFiscalTimes.com
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:33 PM
 
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And you are now making excuses for Bush war spending...
No one needs to make excuses for the government doing WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO DO.. Have you heard of something called the Constitution?
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Yea, so liberal that we had a GOP Congress for over half of that decade and then another 6yrs after that. See how those liberals have worn this country down?
LIE.. The GOP has held congress for EIGHT out of the last FORTY years.. TOTAL.. and 4 of them resulted in "surplus budgets".. If you believe there was a surplus (which there wasnt)...
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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The entire premise is dishonest to say the least. The attackers are taking advantage of an emergency situation,
I dont need to take advantage of the fact that it seems liberals elected an incompetent fool to lead the country who doesnt know basic 101 of economics. Its you liberals taking advantage of an emergency situation to make excuses for incompetence..
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in this case the worst economic downturn since the great depression, and using it to claim the Dems have "out of control" spending.
If its not out of control, then why did Democrats refuse to make a budget for 2011?
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It's not as if he's going on some international shopping spree,
If you looked at the stimulus bill, you would understand he is going on a food stamp shopping spree, and then claiming thats going to end a recession.. Silly notion, tricks are for kids...
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he's deficit spending to keep your ungrateful arse out of a soup line.
yeah, we are all ungrateful for higher deficits, higher unemployment, higher home foreclosures, devaluing dollar, increased welfare support while decreasing production. Lets not even discuss how we are ungrateful for violations taking place in Washington, overstepping federal authority, stepping on the constution, and being told to go to hell if you dont approve.. Yeah, ungrateful me for disapproving of being willing to accept blame for an economic recession because I wont hire more employees because its demanded, even though I cant get a loan for exansion because government took all the cash.
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The GOP also ignores other facts, such as Bush basically being forced to do the same thing prior to his exit.
Wrong, and this proves how little you understand.. Bush LOANED out money, (against conservatives wishes) to stabalize the dollar.. Obama is tearing it down. COMPLETE OPPOSITES..
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If it were McCain and Palin they would have done the exact same thing, there was no way around it.
Possibly, which is why McCain lost.. When two candidates propose the exact same solutions, you go with the one "not like Bush"... They deserved to lose.. I'm glad they lost, especially if it mean the exact same thing.. Incompetence is incompetence regardless of who's cutting the check and in charge...
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