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Old 11-16-2010, 10:21 AM
 
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I don't think they have enough money to pay America for the ongoing damages they cause with escalated crime rates, welfare rates, out of wedlock childbirth rates,
so how much money do you think blacks owe america?

 
Old 11-16-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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As if they are not a part of America.
 
Old 11-16-2010, 11:05 AM
 
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I don't think they have enough money to pay America for the ongoing damages they cause with escalated crime rates, welfare rates, out of wedlock childbirth rates,
Put it on my tab. Take it out of my reparations check.
 
Old 11-16-2010, 11:18 AM
 
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so how much money do you think blacks owe america?
It would be very hard to quantify, but $10K p.a./person should cover the bulk of it.
 
Old 11-16-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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It would be very hard to quantify, but $10K p.a./person should cover the bulk of it.
what would you do if they refuse to pay?
 
Old 11-16-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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what would you do if they refuse to pay?
Just keep tallying the score until the give up on the reparations B.S.
 
Old 11-16-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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I don't think there's one, per se, but imo the most pressing concern is impoverished children who are neglected and generally being raised in crap.
Well then lets' understand who is really poor in America when it comes to children:

In 2001 there were 44.09 million American children categorized as White Alone Not Hispanic and 4.195 million lived below the poverty level or 9.5%. In 2009 there were 40.917 million White American children and 4.850 million of these children or 11.9% below the poverty level.

In 2001 there were 11.556 million categorized as Black Alone children and 3.492 million or 30.2% were below the poverty level. In 2009 there were 11.282 million categorize as Black Alone children and 4.033 million or 35.7% were below the poverty level.

In 2001 there were 12.763 million categorized as Hispanic Any Race children and 3.570 million or 28.0% were below the poverty level. In 2009 there were 16.965 million categorized as Hispanic Any Race children and 5.610 million or 33.1% were below the poverty level.

In 2001 there were 3.215 million categorized as Asian and Pacific Islander and 369,000 or 11.5% were below the poverty level. In 2009 there were 3.996 million categorized as Asian Alone in Combination children and 531,000 or 13.3% were below the poverty level.
If you look at these number one thing is immediately apparent. The overall poverty rate for ALL American children has increased from 2001 to 2009.

The population of American children categorized as White Alone Not Hispanic declined by about 7.2% from 2001 to 2009, however the increase in of the number of children below the poverty level was 15.6%

The population of American children categorized as Black Alone children declined by about 2.4% increase in of the number of children below the poverty level was 15.5%

The population of American children categorized as Hispanic Any Race increase by 32.9% increase in of the number of children below the poverty level was 57.1%

The population of American children categorized as Asian Alone in Combination increase by 24.3% increase in of the number of children below the poverty level was 43.9%

The percentage of Black Americans in poverty is higher than other racial groups. However, for all this angst about poverty and Black Americans and Black American children the increase in the number of Black American children below the poverty level was the LOWEST amongst the children any major racial group in the country.
The fact that there isn’t greater attention given BLACK AMERICANS but the fact that EVERY GROUP IN AMERICA HAS SEEN INCREASES IN IT’S POVERTY LEVEL IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS is indicative that this issue is more driven by stereotypes, falsehoods, media bluster and prejudice than it is by FACTS.
If every racial group in America has more people below the poverty level from 2001 to 2009 increased then why are Black Americans singled out when it comes to poverty, when the numbers are rising faster for other groups?


See tabe 3. Poverty Status, by Age, Race and Hispanic Origin for numerican information related to this post.
Poverty Data - Historical Poverty Tables: People - U.S Census Bureau

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Old 11-16-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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The percentage of Black Americans in poverty is higher than other racial groups. However, for all this angst about poverty and Black Americans and Black American children the increase in the number of Black American children below the poverty level was the LOWEST amongst the children any major racial group in the country.

The fact that there isn’t greater attention given BLACK AMERICANS but the fact that EVERY GROUP IN AMERICA HAS SEEN INCREASES IN IT’S POVERTY LEVEL IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS is indicative that this issue is more driven by stereotypes, falsehoods, media bluster and prejudice than it is by FACTS.

If every racial group in America has more people below the poverty level from 2001 to 2009 increased then why are Black Americans singled out when it comes to poverty, when the numbers are rising faster for other groups?
Imo, it makes no difference who is singled out as more or less as far as my idea goes. As I noted to Mac, there are more than enough white folk in need if that's where he (general he, really) wants to direct his energy. I believe time and energy is what's needed and it doesn't necessarily have to go to children either. Where ever there is a need in a community. Aside from that, AA's are significantly highlighted in this thread because this thread is about AAs. Either way, I hope it gives you, the OP, and whoever else reading on either side of the debate pause...pause to ask yourself about the role you are or are not playing.

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Old 11-16-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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The first people to get them would be the Native American's whom we stole this land from.


If they aren't getting any than why should anyone else? This is including Slaves, Japanese/Chinese internment camp survivors, etc...

It should go in order of atrocity by date.

No I think it is way to late for that. Unless you were ACTUALLY a slave - not a relative- but YOU, then of course not.
 
Old 11-16-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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I agree with Lucario and Jazzy Tall Guy as well as you Braunwyn, but for all.

I have no problem with Black American either. It is telling a detail, which may or not need be told. But I have no personal issue with that to make an identitiy known if it must be.

I would not want to see choice for assistance be based on color, but on money.

With that said I don't want any one of any color or any race living off welfare. That should not be a way of life for anyone. All it does is breed more wasted souls. it ends in 'i Can't because......"
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