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View Poll Results: Is this protected speech?
Disgusting speech nonetheless protected by the 1st Amendment 13 72.22%
Speech so disgusting it's constitutional to criminalize it 5 27.78%
This speech isn't disgusting - I might enjoy reading it 0 0%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-21-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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Allegedly, his book was written from firsthand experience. While he unfortunately is protected by the 1st Amendment, he should face criminal charges for child molestation, not just obscenity. Hopefully, they’ll put him in the general prison population. I bet they’ll teach him a few lessons. Disgusting pig.
Alleged by whom?
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Pretty scary that people want to throw people in jail for speech.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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I'm all for free speech but at some point common sense has to come into play. Hope this prosecutor can make the charges stick and this guy does some time. Ideally, the guards will make sure all of his cellmates know EXACTLY what he's locked up for and they take justice into their own hands. I've heard child predators don't fare so well in lock up. Hopefully, that is the case this time as well.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Alleged by whom?
By him, according to the report I heard on CNN.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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By him, according to the report I heard on CNN.

Care to share that story? (link)
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Care to share that story? (link)
I watched the report today. Perhaps you can check their transcripts.

From the transcripts. . .

You cannot take real life examples of how to sexually batter a nine-year-old and a 13- year-old child and educate, sell, or promote that according to Florida law.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...21/cnr.02.html

Last edited by Benicar; 12-21-2010 at 12:34 PM.. Reason: To add info.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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Allegedly, his book was written from firsthand experience. While he unfortunately is protected by the 1st Amendment, he should face criminal charges for child molestation, not just obscenity. Hopefully, they’ll put him in the general prison population. I bet they’ll teach him a few lessons. Disgusting pig.
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I watched the report today. Perhaps you can check their transcripts.
So I went and found the CNN story myself. Your representation of what he said is totally wrong.

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"Greaves told reporters Tuesday he wrote the book to exorcise his own childhood. He said he was introduced to sex at age 7 by a 10-year-old friend and began having sex with other children. It continued, he said, until he was about 15 when he stopped and did not have sex again for years."
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"Greaves...said 'The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: A Child-Lover's Code of Conduct' can be used as a guide to rehabilitating pedophiles, and -- instead of teaching them how to avoid arrest -- teaches them to avoid illegal actions.

Asked if he is a pedophile, Greaves said, 'I only have sex with grown-ups.' He said he has no children and 'I don't keep children around my house.'"
He didn't admit to molesting children.

Author of pedophile book says Florida arrest is entrapment - CNN.com
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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Why does the Left constantly excuse and defend blantantly disgusting and illegal behavior? WHY? Thread after thread, post after post, the Left can NOT bring themselves to call disgusting people disgusting. They just simply provide cover and an alternate excuse. It totally blows my mind.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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So I went and found the CNN story myself. Your representation of what he said is totally wrong.

He didn't admit to molesting children.

Author of pedophile book says Florida arrest is entrapment - CNN.com
That is not what they reported on TV. Did you not read my post above and the transcript? My interpretation of “real life examples” must differ from yours. In any case, I do not condone pedophilia. Do you?
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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Why does the Left constantly excuse and defend blantantly disgusting and illegal behavior? WHY? Thread after thread, post after post, the Left can NOT bring themselves to call disgusting people disgusting. They just simply provide cover and an alternate excuse. It totally blows my mind.
Child molestation is repugnant and disgusting. If you rape a child you should spend the rest of you life in jail.

However, he's entitled to write about it all he wants. That's speech. That's his right. I have a deep respect and love for our Constitution. As disgusting as I might find this man's writings, I'm not willing to pee all over the Constitution to throw this man in jail for writing about sex with kids.
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