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Old 11-12-2010, 03:24 PM
 
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At least the Tea Partiers go out and vote. Only 11 percent of folks 18-29 did, this election. In some areas of FL the democratic turn out was under 40 percent.
Unless you vote, your interests will not be heard. The evangelical right are as united as the churches they attend. So if the rest of you, aren't willing to make that step to
the voting booth, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Sometimes it's whose motivated the most that gets to
call the shots So if you don't like it, get off your ass
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:25 PM
 
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I love watching the far left freaks squirm after getting their ass kicked in the mid terms. So full of bs, hate and anger!
Why do you not mind that lobbyists are running Washington and that many reresentatives that were just sent back to Congress are entrenched with Corporate America? Are you an admirerer of Oligharchies and are figures such as Mussolini your heroes? What are we supposed to label people such as yourself?
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Why do conservatives keep calling it "Obamacare". How about you call it Reagancare, since all Obama did was take the health care plan that Reagan came up with. Republicans didn't have this much of a problem when Reagan proposed it.
Dude, do you realize that was like 25-30 years ago before we had the flood of illegals in our ER's for the slightest little sneeze?
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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Attention liberals:

When you come across a statement such as this "Now, the fact is, tax cuts do not create deficits ..."


Stop reading.......You are wasting your time....They are too far gone....lol
Wow ... this common sense thing really has you stumped.

Let's use an analogy for you here .... let's say I'm one of those "rich folks" that you liberals hate so much ..... I make $250 grand per year .... but I Spend $450 grand. Are you saying that the problem is that I'm not being paid enough money? Or would you say that am I spending too much?

Come on .... tell the truth ...
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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First, when tax rates go down revenues to the treasury go up. As much is historically accurate. Second, if you cut taxes AND the spending to go with it (something a liberal is simply unable to fathom) you have no deficits.
Historical Tax Revenue

All figures are trillions of dollars
2001 - $1.9911
2002 - $1.8531
2003 - $1.7823
2004 - $1.8801
2005 - $2.1536
2006 - $2.4069
2007 - $2.5680
2008 - $2.5240
Increase from beginning to end of term: 26.56%
Highest Marginal Tax Rate 2003 -39.6%
Lowest Marginal Tax Rate 2004 -35%
Harry Truman
Increases in tax revenue
Harry Truman
1945 - $45.2 billion
1952 - $66.2 billion
Increase - 46.46%
Highest Marginal Tax Rate 1945 - 94.0%
Lowest Marginal Tax Rate 1946 - 91%

Dwight D. Eisenhower
1953 - $69.6 billion
1960 - $92.5 billion
Increase - 32.90%
Higest Marginal Tax Rate 1953 - 92.0%
Lowest Marginal Tax Rate 1954 - 91%


John F. Kennedy - Lyndon B. Johnson
1961 - $94.4 billion
1968 - $153 bilion
Increase - 62.76%
Higest Marginal Tax Rate 1961 - 91.0%
Lowest Marginal Tax Rate 1965 - 70.0%

Richard M. Nixon - Gerald R. Ford
1969 - $186.9 billion
1976 - $298.1 billion
Increase - 59.50%
Highest Marginal Tax Rate - 70%

Ronald Reagan
1981 - $599.3 billion
1988 - $909.2 billion
Increase - 51.2%
Highest Marginal Tax Rate 1981 - 70.0%
Lowest Marginal Tax Rate 1988 - 28.0%

Bill Clinton
1993 - $1.1543
2000 - $2.0252
Increase - 75.43%
Highest Marginal Tax Rate - 39.6%

On a percentage basis the Bush Administration had the LOWEST increase in federal tax revenue of any post World War II President. It should be noted the Ronald Reagan enacted the biggest income tax reduction in history but the rate of federal tax revenue was exceeded by Bill Clinton, and Richard Nixon WITHOUT CUTTING TAXES. The terms of the Kennedy-Johnson Administration was about to achieve a higher percentage increase in tax revenue by lower taxes AT much higher tax rates.

Sorry but lowering tax rates is NOT the only factor in terms of increasing federal tax revenue. There are a host of other economic factors i.e. demographic trends, wage increases, technical innovation etc. that play a much bigger role in increasing tax revenue.
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:04 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Do I detect, "sour grapes"? Oh, I think I do!
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Attention liberals:

When you come across a statement such as this "Now, the fact is, tax cuts do not create deficits ..."


Stop reading.......You are wasting your time....They are too far gone....lol
Of course you can't address the FACTS presented to you on the debt and deficit, can you?

Where did you say you get your information and facts?

Certainly not the CBO or the Treasury, because you are ignoring the figures there. It must be painful to KNOW your God has created the biggest financial mess we've ever been in.
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I love watching the far left freaks squirm after getting their ass kicked in the mid terms. So full of bs, hate and anger!
They don't even know why they lost. They should. They are all in total denial.

Hint, libs: It wasn't marketing. It was what you are selling; i.e., horse manure!
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:18 PM
 
Location: FL
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In reality (something right wingers don't deal in)....Federal spending did not go up that much.

Most of the spending was in the form of unemployment claims but that's something you likely don't know anything about.

The additional spending on the health care bill raised the budget less than 2%..likely you are clueless to that fact.

You likely don't know that the deficit this year was mostly due to tax cuts enacted under the stimulus bill.

Basically, the right right is clueless to any details about spending and they just repeat these story lines they learn from Limbaugh and Hannity.
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Why do conservatives keep calling it "Obamacare". How about you call it Reagancare, since all Obama did was take the health care plan that Reagan came up with. Republicans didn't have this much of a problem when Reagan proposed it.
Reagan never did, and never would have proposed socialized health care! Reagan was not a socialist! Who lied and told you Reagan proposed anything like this? I was around when Reagan was President. I was in my 30's. No such thing was ever thought of or proposed by his administration.
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