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Old 11-15-2010, 10:36 PM
 
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Prostitution should remain illegal. It turns human beings into objects and a commodity.
That's the point of employment in general.
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:55 AM
 
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A country into legislating morality = a country of religious zealots
There is no reason to write a law unless there is some moral reason: a wrong to be righted. Otherwise, you're wasting ink.

You have fallen into the use of silly platitudes when you repeat "You can't legislate morality!" You have been suckered into leftist dogma.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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There is no reason to write a law unless there is some moral reason: a wrong to be righted. Otherwise, you're wasting ink.

You have fallen into the use of silly platitudes when you repeat "You can't legislate morality!" You have been suckered into leftist dogma.
Technically you are correct. We do, indeed, "legislate morality" with every law that is passed. The question is what are the roots of the legislated morality. In America, the only legitimate roots should be those based on (or at least compatible with) the "inalienable" rights of individual liberty. Realistically we know that a lot of our rights will conflict, and thus we will need to prioritize and make decisions in a lot of grey areas. But as I pointed out earlier, prostitution is not one of these grey areas. There are many cases in which a mere exchange of money for sex is a private concern between consenting adults. The ONLY basis for laws making these events illegal is morality based on people's religious beliefs and/or personal tastes - and this is what should not be allowed because these laws are inconsistent with the concept of individual liberty.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:58 AM
 
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Liberty would suggest freedom from captivity , right or power to do as one pleases, slavery. I'm getting this from dictionary.
How is a women exercising liberty, in the slavery of prostitution ? Its not a matter of twisting words around. Prostitution is a no go for emotional health and stability. It is the essence of
"lack of liberty".

The only way a person can become a prostitute since it is NOT constructive behavior is through emotional or financial depreciation. An enslaved individual.

Law cannot represent the shallowness of casual thought.


Besides, it isn't against the law in a sense. The infractions and fines represent license fee.
All your doing is giving a license to a jerk. A jerk who will then hide behind the formal justification to manage how he pleases. Threats , ill- treatment will become even worse.
Regulation of allocation in earnings ? Well, if you say so.

"Protection, earnings , fairness, will always reflect the integrity of prostitution,
u guys gotta ....WAKE UP...on that baloney arguement..I mean really"

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Old 11-16-2010, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There is a Bible verse which states: "The poor we will always have with us". I like to paraphrase that at times. "Prostitution we will always have with us"; "Crime we will always have with us". You can't make crime go away by legalizing everything. It just won't happen. Prostitution is kind of sketchy. It's always going to attract crime.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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It can't be stopped - the best they can and should do is control it so that minors and slavery are not tolerated, and the spread of disease is prevented. The 'escort' services and 'massage' parlors are basicly legalized prostitution - except at times when the police or FBI decide to 'crack down' for whatever reason. Most of the time there is a 'nod nod wink wink' sort of enforcement. Maybe because government and law enforcement are often the client.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It can't be stopped - the best they can and should do is control it so that minors and slavery are not tolerated, and the spread of disease is prevented. The 'escort' services and 'massage' parlors are basicly legalized prostitution - except at times when the police or FBI decide to 'crack down' for whatever reason. Most of the time there is a 'nod nod wink wink' sort of enforcement. Maybe because government and law enforcement are often the client.
Plus college football recruiters.
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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Plus college football recruiters.
I think they are more interested in the 'boys'.
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Old 11-16-2010, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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How is a women exercising liberty, in the slavery of prostitution ? Its not a matter of twisting words around. Prostitution is a no go for emotional health and stability. It is the essence of "lack of liberty".
You seem to have a mental image of prostitution in which all of the women are miserable slaves. This is true for some, but not for all. But most importantly, for those who are miserable slaves, most of their misery/slavery is due to the fact that prostitution is illegal. If these same women were protected by the legal system (rather than persecuted by the legal system), most of them would be have higher than average incomes, and most would not be miserable at all.

You assume that their work automatically degrades them, but this is just your assumption. What is this assumption base on? Have you studied sociological data? Do you personally know a lot of prostitutes? My guess is that you are uncritically accepting the general social attitudes and popular media images. My suggestion: Set aside your unfounded assumptions and do some research with a open mind.

Just because you think their work is degrading, does not mean that they think their work is degrading. For the most part, the people who pay for sex do not oppress the prostitutes. But you oppress them by perpetuating the social attitudes and laws that make their work far more difficult and dangerous than it would otherwise have to be.

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"Protection, earnings , fairness, will always reflect the integrity of prostitution, u guys gotta ....WAKE UP...on that baloney arguement..I mean really"
My conclusions are based on research and logical argumentation. Everything you've said in this post suggests that your assumptions are based on the uncritical biases, fears, and presumptions of popular culture. I think it is you who needs to wake up and take a critical look at reality.

Here are some links that might help you to see thing differently, if you are willing to look:

PENet: Prostitution Issues: Statistics

Sex Worker Rights: Prostitutes Education Network

Sex Worker Rights Are Human Rights | Sex & Relationships | AlterNet

Sacred sex and temple prostitutes: from ancient myths to modern realities - Cleveland Open relationships | Examiner.com

Star Whores: return of the courtesan? - Cleveland Open relationships | Examiner.com
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