The Case for Obama (Putin, illegal, healthcare, regular)

[pghquest]

Did you even read the BS before you posted it?

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

This president has delivered more sweeping, progressive change in 20 months than the previous two Democratic administrations did in 12 years. "When you look at what will last in history," historian Doris Kearns Goodwin tells Rolling Stone, "Obama has more notches on the presidential belt." In fact, when the history of this administration is written, Obama's opening act is likely to be judged as more impressive than any president's — Democrat or Republican — since the mid-1960s. "If you're looking at the first-two-year legislative record," says Ornstein, "you really don't have any rivals since Lyndon Johnson — and that includes Ronald Reagan." capacity to generate renewable energy by the end of Obama's first term.

Lynon Johnson is remembered for what exactly? He did get one thing right.. he's delivered more sweeping PROGRESSIVE change in 20 months.. and people wonder why the man is called a socialists, a communist, a fascist.. By Goodwins own admission the man could accurately be described as any of these..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

Quote:As president, he has rewritten America's social contract to make health care accessible for all citizens.

He did no such thing, the CBO even says costs will go UP because of Obama

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

He has brought 100,000 troops home from war

He did not.. Obama has tripled the number of troops in Afghanistan.. History being rewritten as we watch folks.. With nothing but lies..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

and forged a once-unthinkable consensus around the endgame for the Bush administration's $3 trillion blunder in Iraq.

The wars cost no where close to $3T but Obama has spent $300B since his election INCREASING the spending on wars.. But if it was such a blunder, why is Obama following the Bush timeline for Iraq?

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

He has secured sweeping financial reforms that elevate the rights of consumers over Wall Street bankers and give regulators powerful new tools to prevent another collapse.

Absolutely nothing passed would prevent another collapse.. In fact just the opposite. Obama gave more power to a limited few which increases their risk tolerance and simply moved the "collapsed" industries out of the bankruptcy courts, and onto the liability of the taxpayers.. Only a fool would celebrate such stupidity..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

And most important of all, he has achieved all of this while moving boldly to ward off another Great Depression and put the country back on a halting path to recovery.

Is the path to recovery going to take place and be as successful as this "summer of jobs" we are in the middle of? Ooh I cant wait till it begins..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

Along the way, Obama delivered record tax cuts to the middle class and slashed nearly $200 billion in corporate welfare —

He's done neither.. His tax cuts are far outweighed with tax increases, 3 times the size of the cuts.. His "corporate welfare" cuts simply resulted in higher costs of products.. Sorry but moving taxes from A to B doesnt give you the right to celebrate tax cuts which didnt take place..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

reinvesting that money to make college more accessible

He did no such thing.. He simply moved the loans from the banks to the federal government, that doesnt make it more accessible because they were backed by the US Govt..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

Medicare more solvent.

He did no such thing.. He cut Medicare budgets by $500 BILLION and since there is no seperate "budget" for medicare (its not like Social Security) there is no "solvent" issue with medicare.. it comes out of the general funds like most other appropriation budgets and with higher debts he's made it far less solvent than before.. Stupidity run amok here folks..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

He single-handedly prevented the collapse of the Big Three automakers

More bull crap.. TARP saved the automakers and TARP was passed by Bush.. Not Obama.. Lets not even discuss the fact that only 2 automakers too advantage of it and those 2 companies are still having economic problems while the one who didnt take it is thriving..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

saving more than 1 million jobs — ]

Did not.. If one auto company went under, other car companies would pickup the demand.. Its not like people would stop buying cars..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

and brought Big Tobacco, at last, under the yoke of federal regulation.

This process also began under Bush and was a bill being signed into law when Obama was a Senator. I love how Obama tries to take credit for actions of Bushs, while he blames Bush at the same time..

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

Even in the face of congressional intransigence on climate change, he has fought to constrain carbon pollution by executive fiat and to invest $200 billion in clean energy

I thought the purpose of this spending was to stimulate the economy, not curb pollution? Btw, many of these investments arent panning out very well.. Keep celebrating failure.. but the governments job isnt to "invest" where no one else will go. This isnt Star Trek.

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

an initiative bigger than John F. Kennedy's moonshot and one that's on track to double America's capacity to generate renewable energy by the end of Obama's first term.

By when? If all of these companies keep going under, we havent made any progress...

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

The Case for Obama | Rolling Stone Politics

The fact that Rolling Stone has to make a case for President Obama instead of President Obama making his case to the American people is the essence of his problem. All too often he has come before the American people and example things like his stimulus package, healthcare reform, financial reform and other initiatives. The result is his actions get defined by everybody else but him.

The result is combined with his inability to take a firm stand and his insistence on trying to compromise with people that clearly don't want to compromise makes him appear weak and ineffective. If he doesn't spend more time in front of the American people controlling the narrative for what his administration does he's in danger of completely losing the confidence of the American people.

[varmintblaster]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Obama only has the Rolling Stones, and the Comedy Channel left to push his bs.. Isnt that great!!

That article in the Rolling Stone is hilarious..

Did it appear right above a Zig-Zag ad?

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy

The fact that Rolling Stone has to make a case for President Obama instead of President Obama making his case to the American people is the essence of his problem. All too often he has come before the American people and example things like his stimulus package, healthcare reform, financial reform and other initiatives. The result is his actions get defined by everybody else but him.

The result is combined with his inability to take a firm stand and his insistence on trying to compromise with people that clearly don't want to compromise makes him appear weak and ineffective. If he doesn't spend more time in front of the American people controlling the narrative for what his administration does he's in danger of completely losing the confidence of the American people.

Before I ridicule your posting, I'm going to give you a chance to backup your claim.

prior to this years election, name ONE thing that Obama has compromised on.. Just one..

[varmintblaster]

Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy

If he doesn't spend more time in front of the American people controlling the narrative for what his administration does he's in danger of completely losing the confidence of the American people.

During his Oval Office speech regarding the Gulf Oil Spill, at a time the country is gripped in a deep recession, Obobo used most of his alloted air time to go on a Cap & Trade rant describing how it will penalize the users of electricity and fossil fuels..


the man is a CLOWN !!!!!

[varmintblaster]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Before I ridicule your posting, I'm going to give you a chance to backup your claim.

prior to this years election, name ONE thing that Obama has compromised on.. Just one..

I'll jump on that one:

1) publicly stating a drop-dead date for troop removal from Afghanistan

Total joke - the bad guys simply back off, wait it out, then regroup when he pulls the troops... MORONIC MOVE for political purposes.

2) Obobocare Exemptions - Nebraska ring a bell?


I can't wait till you start ridiculing...

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Before I ridicule your posting, I'm going to give you a chance to backup your claim.

prior to this years election, name ONE thing that Obama has compromised on.. Just one..

The stimulus he wanted a bigger package the Republicans refused he backed down.

Healthtcare reform, he wanted the public option or a single payer system. Instead of getting out front and LEADING to get effective healthcare reform legislation he decided to "Let Harry and Nancy" work out the particulars. The result is we go healthcare reform before that nobody really likes. Progressives don't think it goes far enough. The Conservatives think it goes too far.

Financial reform was another example of weak leadership resulting in a water down bill that was not as effective as ti could have been.

His stance on Down Ask Don't Tell has been cautious. He's for it but he doesn't want to get too far in front. He's afraid of pissing people off.

President Obama has shown consistent pattern of not really fighting for the things he believes in.


Say what you will about President George W. Bush Jr. but you knew where he stood and if really didn't give much of a damn if you didn't like it.

[LexusNexus]

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

The Case for Obama | Rolling Stone Politics

Thank you. Excellent post! Deceptive marketing by Pubs has sucked in a lot of folks into thinking this great president has not been effective. He's done more for this country in just two years than Bush did over eight. In fact, no Republican president has done more since Lincoln (who would be a Democrat today).

The closer we get to 2012, the more evident it will become to all that president Obama is an exceptional leader and right for this country thru 2016. It will also become more clear that Republicans stink.

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by Alexus

Thank you. Excellent post! Deceptive marketing by Pubs has sucked in a lot of folks into thinking this great president has not been effective. He's done more for this country in just two years than Bush did over eight. In fact, no Republican president has done more since Lincoln (who would be a Democrat today).

The closer we get to 2012, the more evident it will become to all that president Obama is an exceptional leader and right for this country thru 2016. It will also become more clear that Republicans stink.

If the unemployment rate stays about 8% he's toast in 2012. The American people more than anything else vote their wallets and pocketbooks. Remember the phrase "It's the economy stupid!". That more than anything else will determine of he has a legitimate shot at re-election.

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

The Case for Obama | Rolling Stone Politics

And that is the case against Obama. That is the reason for the recent election results. Nobody wants what this ass is selling.