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...does that mean we should get rid of social security and all the public libraries, post offices, police forces, fire departments, public schools, parks, roads, sewers, bridges, water supplies, and utilities? They're all socialized, so why don't we privatize them so only those who can afford it are allowed these amenities? What about the military? That's socialist, too. In fact, the military is communist. I know because I served myself. They have an agenda by which everyone lives. Nobody is allowed to live where they want. All property and businesses are owned by the state, and you forfeit your Constitutional rights by joining.
The soldiers are considered government property, nonetheless. My company commander in the service once told me, "Nothing in the military is optional." They even have socialized medicine. I know, I know! "How dare you speak ill of those serving our country, bleeding-hearted liberal scum! Thou shall be banished to Guantanamo Bay and be waterboarded for thou art now a terrorist! Off with his head!" We've been using communism to stop the spread of communism in the name of liberty to defend capitalism since Eisenhower was President. We've even used our tax dollars to make rich CEO's of defense companies like Halliburton, McDonnell-Douglas, and Lockheed Martin richer.
Let's not forget about Medicaid and Medicare. Yes, it's true the right doesn't want the government telling us how to live. They'd rather leave that to Wall Street and let the whole world be owned by one giant corporation. They think socialized medicine is such an atrocity because HMO's and insurance companies have their fingers in everybody's pies. I'm sorry if the readers think I'm unkind for believing doctors should go into medicine because they want to help people not because they want to live in a McMansion with 18 widescreen plasma TV's, drive 5 BMW's, and pontificate their net value to everyone at the country clubs, golf courses, or on their luxurious yachts.
How about this one? If socialism and communism are so horrible, why do we continue bartering with China and outsourcing jobs over there when there's still an embargo on Cuba? I can promise everyone China has a longer track record of human rights violations than Cuba or even the Soviet Union. Unfortunately, all we know about socialism is what we've been told growing up during the Cold War or what those idiots on Fox News say. They don't know the difference between democratic socialism, Marxism, or communism which is an extreme form of socialism. Alas, if you tell someone something enough times they'll believe it no matter how true or false it is. Let's hear your thoughts on this.
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Government is a necessary evil. Just because certain government services are the 'least bad' solution to societal problems doesn't mean that we need to rubber stamp all government programs that are designed to help. To paraphrase Thomas Sowell, the last 100 years of our history have largely been comprised of replacing what works with what sounded good. I'm sure you know the famous cliche about good intentions and the road to hell. Whenever we come to a junction where one possible outcome is the increase in the size of government, we must ask ourselves "Is this absolutely necessary?" If the answer is anything but a resounding "yes," we must reconsider. AND, when government programs have outlived their usefulness, we must discontinue them, without regard to any minority group who might have a vested interest in their continuation.
To put it another way, whenever we have a problem, the historical answer has been to throw government at it until it goes away. Instead, we should decide if there is any way we can solve the problem, or let the problem solve itself, without government, and only apply the broad, fumbling brush stroke of government after we have decided it is the only possible way to solve the problem.
...does that mean we should get rid of social security and all the public libraries, post offices, police forces, fire departments, public schools, parks, roads, sewers, bridges, water supplies, and utilities? They're all socialized, so why don't we privatize them so only those who can afford it are allowed these amenities? What about the military? That's socialist, too. In fact, the military is communist. I know because I served myself. They have an agenda by which everyone lives. Nobody is allowed to live where they want. All property and businesses are owned by the state, and you forfeit your Constitutional rights by joining.
The soldiers are considered government property, nonetheless. My company commander in the service once told me, "Nothing in the military is optional." They even have socialized medicine. I know, I know! "How dare you speak ill of those serving our country, bleeding-hearted liberal scum! Thou shall be banished to Guantanamo Bay and be waterboarded for thou art now a terrorist! Off with his head!" We've been using communism to stop the spread of communism in the name of liberty to defend capitalism since Eisenhower was President. We've even used our tax dollars to make rich CEO's of defense companies like Halliburton and Lockheed Martin richer.
Let's not forget about Medicaid and Medicare. Yes, it's true the right doesn't want the government telling us how to live. They'd rather leave that to Wall Street and let the whole world be owned by one giant corporation. They think socialized medicine is such an atrocity because HMO's and insurance companies have their fingers in everybody's pies. I'm sorry if the readers think I'm unkind for believing doctors should go into medicine because they want to help people not because they want to live in a McMansion with 18 widescreen plasma TV's, drive 5 BMW's, and pontificate their net value to everyone at the country clubs, golf courses, or on their luxurious yachts.
How about this one? If socialism and communism are so horrible, why do we continue bartering with China and outsourcing jobs over there when there's still an embargo on Cuba? I can promise everyone China has a longer track record of human rights violations than Cuba or even the Soviet Union. Unfortunately, all we know about socialism is what we've been told growing up during the Cold War or what those idiots on Fox News say. They don't know the difference between democratic socialism, Marxism, or communism which is an extreme form of socialism. Alas, if you tell someone something enough times they'll believe it no matter how true or false it is. Let's hear your thoughts on this.
That was such a train wreck I don't even know how to respond to your post. It reminds me of a Led Zepplin song I used to listen to.. I was a 60's child, if you know what I mean, and the song made more sense back then than your post does now and I'm well.. in a better state of mind today than I was in the 60's I miss those days, everyone was against communism, socialism, free willy..
Quote:
"Dazed And Confused"
Been Dazed and Confused for so long it's not true.
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
Lots of people talk and few of them know,
soul of a woman was created below.
You hurt and abuse tellin' all of your lies.
Run around sweet baby, Lord how they hypnotize.
Sweet little baby, I don't know where you've been.
Gonna love you baby, here I come again.
Every day I work so hard, bringin' home my hard earned pay
Try to love you baby, but you push me away.
Don't know where you're goin', only know just where you've been,
Sweet little baby, I want you again.
Been dazed and confused for so long, it's not true.
Wanted a woman, never bargained for you.
Take it easy baby, let them say what they will.
Will your tongue wag so much when I send you the bill?
...does that mean we should get rid of social security
Yes, now you tell me how me get rid of the monstrosity it has grown into. Your answer of course is you can't which is part of the problem with these types of programs to begin with.
My first thought is..... Jesus, what's with the RED FONT????? It kills my eyes just to look at it. The only thing that could possibly have been worse would have been red font with ALL CAPS. Yeeesh.
Anyway, that having been said. I would give up everything for my freedom. I do not care a fig for libraries or fire departments if it means that I must give up my individual freedom to choose. Sorry. My FREEDOM is the most important thing in my life and people have DIED for more than 200 years for it.
It would be a slap in the face to everyone who has fought and served to keep our nation free of tyranny. Give your head a shake man. NOTHING is more important. Nothing.
My first thought is..... Jesus, what's with the RED FONT????? It kills my eyes just to look at it. The only thing that could possibly have been worse would have been red font with ALL CAPS. Yeeesh.
Anyway, that having been said. I would give up everything for my freedom. I do not care a fig for libraries or fire departments if it means that I must give up my individual freedom to choose. Sorry. My FREEDOM is the most important thing in my life and people have DIED for more than 200 years for it.
It would be a slap in the face to everyone who has fought and served to keep our nation free of tyranny. Give your head a shake man. NOTHING is more important. Nothing.
20yrsinBranson
post of the day.
freedom means more than every bit of security/subjucation that the feds can offer/take/steal.
My first thought is..... Jesus, what's with the RED FONT????? It kills my eyes just to look at it. The only thing that could possibly have been worse would have been red font with ALL CAPS. Yeeesh.
Anyway, that having been said. I would give up everything for my freedom. I do not care a fig for libraries or fire departments if it means that I must give up my individual freedom to choose. Sorry. My FREEDOM is the most important thing in my life and people have DIED for more than 200 years for it.
It would be a slap in the face to everyone who has fought and served to keep our nation free of tyranny. Give your head a shake man. NOTHING is more important. Nothing.
20yrsinBranson
Sure! I guess when you get old, don't count on social security or Medicaid when you have arthritis. You could just work until you drop like they do in Third World countries.
Yes, now you tell me how me get rid of the monstrosity it has grown into. Your answer of course is you can't which is part of the problem with these types of programs to begin with.
You're absolutely right that you can't because there'd be a revolution on our hands if there was. I suspect sooner or later there will be because we're not really a democracy anymore. We've slowly but surely turned into a plutocracy which is a nation where the rich have all the power. That's one step shy of totalitarianism which is exactly why you never see any of them sending their kids to war.
Sure! I guess when you get old, don't count on social security or Medicaid when you have arthritis. You could just work until you drop like they do in Third World countries.
So when you get older you expect other people to pay for your cost's?
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It reminds me of a Led Zepplin song I used to listen to.. I was a 60's child, if you know what I mean, and the song made more sense back then than your post does now and I'm well.. in a better state of mind today than I was in the 60's 
I miss those days, everyone was against communism, socialism, free willy.. 
