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Old 11-29-2010, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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As cost-effectiveness goes, the air marshal service leaves a lot to be desired. The whole of the agency averages four arrests per year (at a cost of $215 million per arrest) and have proved to be little deterrent for the current threat. Again, passengers are the real first responders, tackling bombers (and even drunk and belligerent travelers who might be bombers) reliably since late 2001.

They are not needed. Obama wants to cut out money...start here!!! Passengers, the last air defense | guampdn.com | Pacific Daily News (http://www.guampdn.com/article/20101130/OPINION02/11300315 - broken link)
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Old 11-29-2010, 04:39 PM
 
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Air Marshalls and bomb detecting dogs are more cost efficient than these radiation laden naked scanners. I guess George Soros didn't invest in bomb sniffing dogs or air marshalls so that is not where the money is being paid back, er, spent.
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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Air Marshalls and bomb detecting dogs are more cost efficient than these radiation laden naked scanners. I guess George Soros didn't invest in bomb sniffing dogs or air marshalls so that is not where the money is being paid back, er, spent.
Cost efficient? FOUR arrests per year?
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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Cost efficient? FOUR arrests per year?
Thats like saying our nuclear weapon program is useless because it isn't used. Simply not true. Air marshals are not there to make arrests, they're there to make sure people don't enter the cockpit and cause all sorts of issues.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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Thats like saying our nuclear weapon program is useless because it isn't used. Simply not true. Air marshals are not there to make arrests, they're there to make sure people don't enter the cockpit and cause all sorts of issues.
The CAN'T enter the cockpit. The pilots don't leave the cockpit anymore either. The doors have been strengthened and pilots can carry weapons. The doors of the planes cannot be opened while in the air and once again, the passengers will be on a menace long before they can attempt to do much of anything.

Air marshals...not needed.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Security is an illusion to make the self-deluded "feel" safe.

Eliminate the Air Marshals.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:09 PM
 
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Get rid of the air marshals. They're just a big waste of money.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I have a family member who is a former air marshal. He has since left to join the private (and higher-paying) sector. His take is that we are at a greater risk from unscreened cargo than from passengers.

That said, I imagine we are wasting far more on other useless "security" measures than on air marshals' salaries.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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The CAN'T enter the cockpit. The pilots don't leave the cockpit anymore either. The doors have been strengthened and pilots can carry weapons. The doors of the planes cannot be opened while in the air and once again, the passengers will be on a menace long before they can attempt to do much of anything.

Air marshals...not needed.
Uh, where are you getting your data? Which doors cannot be opened while in the air?
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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I have a family member who is a former air marshal. He has since left to join the private (and higher-paying) sector. His take is that we are at a greater risk from unscreened cargo than from passengers.
And how does an Air Marshall sitting in his seat on an airplane deal with the unscreened cargo problem?

Get rid of them; huge waste of money with very little accomplished. Wait, I think I've just defined the word "government"!
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