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Old 11-30-2010, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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NYT: South celebrates Civil War, without slaves - U.S. news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

The war has been re-branded as celebrations come up to drastically play down the role of slavery, and the fact it even happened. Instead many are making it all about "states rights" while the good ol' southern boys were defending their homes from the warring North.

Screw that one of the tantamount reasons to secession was to keep human beings as property I guess.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:44 AM
 
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Dems are always attempting to re-write history.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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NYT: South celebrates Civil War, without slaves - U.S. news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

The war has been re-branded as celebrations come up to drastically play down the role of slavery, and the fact it even happened. Instead many are making it all about "states rights" while the good ol' southern boys were defending their homes from the warring North.

Screw that one of the tantamount reasons to secession was to keep human beings as property I guess.
Slavery wasn't the only reason you know, stop oversimplifying it. And in a way, they were defending themselves from the North.

FYI: MSNBC is probably even MORE Liberally biased than FOX is Conservativly biased.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:48 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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NYT: South celebrates Civil War, without slaves - U.S. news - The New York Times - msnbc.com

The war has been re-branded as celebrations come up to drastically play down the role of slavery, and the fact it even happened. Instead many are making it all about "states rights" while the good ol' southern boys were defending their homes from the warring North.

Screw that one of the tantamount reasons to secession was to keep human beings as property I guess.
Well, fools just like the Holocaust deniers...
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Seems ignorance truly IS bliss,at least for those who are so simplistic to think that the Civil War was mainly about slavery.
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:14 AM
 
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Slavery wasn't the only reason you know, stop oversimplifying it. And in a way, they were defending themselves from the North.
How does one defend oneself from the Federal government by firing on an American fort in an act of naked rebellion?

I eagerly await your response.
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Seems ignorance truly IS bliss,at least for those who are so simplistic to think that the Civil War was mainly about slavery.
Thank you!

It saddens me that our schools do such a poor job that a foreign national (I assume, based on your screen name) knows more about our history than some of the folks who were born here.

In our Civil War, who was "wrong" and who was "right" is largely determined by who wins. Just like most/all wars... "History is written by the victors." -Winston Churchill


P.S. Slavery was only a minor consideration for going to war.
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:17 AM
 
Location: South East
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Seems ignorance truly IS bliss,at least for those who are so simplistic to think that the Civil War was mainly about slavery.

Exactly!!

The libs like to try to re-write history so that they can cry racism and a host of other pathetic things. It is getting so old!

My husband joined a local branch of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and I cannot say enough good about the group. It is truly about heritage. I am so sick of people trying to make it all about slavery and racisim. The fact that the NAACP is getting involved in the upcoming celebrations to protest - let alone the fact that the NAACP is even a recognized organization - is racism at its finest.

I am looking forward to the upcoming Sons of Confederate Veterans events in my town!
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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Excerpted from Lincoln's letter to Horace Greeley;

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I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

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Old 11-30-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Lincoln's inaugural address:

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I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
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That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
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