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Most Republicans are stupid enough to disbelieve evolution.....We seem to agree on that.
That means that you agree with my original premise.
You're starting to sound obsessed, almost Lexus-ish in some aspects. If you'd like to discuss a certain fact feel free to bring it up, your previous posts were quite random so I'm not quite sure which premise you're talking about now.
No, educational terms, which is the topic of this thread. The move away from educating ALL students more effectively by grouping them by skill/ability levels for much more specifically targeted instruction has been severely dumbing down U.S. students for over 40 years.
So you agree that public schools should get rid of AP classes because there's too many white kids in them and not enough "diversity"? Really?
Feel free to comment on the article(s) posted instead of making personal attacks.
What exactly is a "hero state"?
Feel free to comment on the article(s) posted instead of making bizarre accusations about me.
All the article says is that AP credit will still be given to students that complete the assigned AP work...they just will not have their own class. They will be mixed in with the flunkies.
The AP program is not being abolished.
So your problem is where the AP students earn their credit?
That idea is worth discussing but it would take a long discussion to cover it.
There are reasons to do as you suggest but there are reasons not to.
Our country was founded on enlightenment ideas which involved education for everyone. Our Democracy is predicated on an educated population.
That is EXACTLY what specifically targeted instruction does. It educates EVERYONE. Much more effectively. There is no way to specifically target instruction to result in maximum educational gains for all when a teacher must deal with a 7+ year grade-level range of skill sets and abilities in a single class. In one class we now have students mixed together who function anywhere from 2-3 years below grade level to those who function at 4-5 years above or more. NO ONE is appropriately educated in that classroom environment, and our country's students' abysmal performance compared to their international peers tells us that, explicitly.
All the article says is that AP credit will still be given to students that complete the assigned AP work...they just will not have their own class. They will be mixed in with the flunkies.
The AP program is not being abolished.
So your problem is where the AP students earn their credit?
Completing assigned AP work isn't enough to earn college credit. One must also pass AP exams with at least a certain score (3 is minimum out of a maximum of 5) in order to transfer that credit to a college. Even many of the better state schools only accept AP credit for scores of 4 or 5.
AP students don't get that level of instruction when they're in a class in which the focus is NOT on very high academic standards. The focus just isn't there in a class of mixed skill levels/abilities.
And graduating HS reading at an 8th grade level is what we consider "an educated population" ?
There's that functioning at 4 years below grade level problem I'm talking about. How is a teacher supposed to instruct a class at grade level, when so many are functioning at a level several years below where they should be for that class?
There's that functioning at 4 years below grade level problem I'm talking about. How is a teacher supposed to instruct a class at grade level, when so many are functioning at a level several years below where they should be for that class?
You can't. Some of them can't even read the textbooks for the grade level. That's why there's so many "worksheets" in these kids folders today.
Well it ain't Republicans trying to dumb down the curriculum. They're too busy trying to get people to pray to Jesus between Algebra II and Biology.
And liberals are trying to get children to take Algebra II and Biology in Spanish. Surrender is their religion.
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