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Old 12-04-2010, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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China's eating our lunch on updating their infrastructure and investing in clean fuel technology.
China's government is not bogged down by layers of bureaucracy like we are.

We're doing it to ourselves.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:05 PM
 
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Getting fat, lazy Americans out of their cars and walking or taking public transit on their way to Taco Bell is way too much to ask for.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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It might work at a route like LA to Las Vegas with no stops in between. Las Vegas is a tourist destination. High speed trains don't work very well if there are a lot of stops between Point A and point B. What good is 300 MPH if you have to stop every 30-50 miles or so to pick up or diembark passengers? With this premise, the NE corridor wouldn't be feasable as there are too many cities close together.
Las Vegas could not even keep Amtrak there. I don't know that a faster train would be any better attended. The train should be routed as follows: DEFINITE: Boston-Hartford-New York City-Philadelphia-Washington DC. DEFINTE: San Diego- Los Angeles- San Fransisco - (maybe Portland and Seattle). POSSIBLE: Milwaukee-Chicago-Detroit. POSSIBLE: Miami- Ft Lauderdale-Orlando-Tampa-Jacksonville No other routes are feasible because they lack the density needed to support the service.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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The Acela 2's will go 250mph , the current Acelas are limited to 150 , but can go up to 160mph. The Chinese may say there develop 300mph , but its unlikely they can run at that speed , the tracks and wheels would need to be replaced every 2 weeks for the where n tear....


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Operating speed will probably be 160 to 200 MPH. I cannot see them going any faster. It would be unsafe.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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China's government is not bogged down by layers of bureaucracy like we are.

We're doing it to ourselves.
Yes but they also don't care about safety. If 500 people get killed on their 300 MPH train, they will just shrug and say "oh well that is life". In the USA we value human life to a greater extent and want SAFETY over just raw speed.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Getting fat, lazy Americans out of their cars and walking or taking public transit on their way to Taco Bell is way too much to ask for.
It doesn't stop at Taco Bell. It does however stop at Chic-Fill-A and the bus driver announces a 10 min stop so of the passengers want to run in to Chic-Fill-A and grab breakfast they can.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Operating speed will probably be 160 to 200 MPH. I cannot see them going any faster. It would be unsafe.
No , they can go faster ......but the tracks have to be built for that...
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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How vulnerable to terrorism is it?
Not as vulnerable as someone standing at the end of a runway just outside the fence with a home-made rocket that'll take down any passenger plane.

Can you imagine the cost to defend against that?

$Trillions annually.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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The Acela 2's will go 250mph , the current Acelas are limited to 150 , but can go up to 160mph. The Chinese may say there develop 300mph , but its unlikely they can run at that speed , the tracks and wheels would need to be replaced every 2 weeks for the where n tear....
That is what flange lubricators are for.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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High-Speed Rail is a very important and interesting technology, and the US should really try to improve the railway system. East coast from Boston to NYC, via Philly, Baltimore to Washington would be a first step. I don't think that "frequent" stops would be such a problem. Look at the German ICE System, it stops all thru northrine-westphalia, (dortmund, essen, dusseldorf, cologne...) goes further to frankfort and it is a quite efficient system. On the high-speed track between cologne and frankfort it can go about 200 mph.

We could avoid lots of short-distance flights and many hours in congestions on the road by using high-speed rail. It sometimes makes me sad that all other developed countries have such good railway system...
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