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Old 12-08-2010, 11:10 AM
 
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He has virtually carried forward everything that Bush left.

The wars in the middle east are still going and today the Bush tax cuts for the rich still continue.

Obama's base officially left him today. It is over. I doubt very seriously if he will get the democratic nomination.

He is toast. Maybe since he knows he will be leaving he will grow a pair.
He has also expedited the bankruptcy of America that is sure to come unless major changes are made.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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Either he has no backbone or he has been on the take from big banks from the very beginning. He has the control of congress the polls all show that the majority of americans were against tax cuts for the rich and he refuses to stand up to Republicans. He then alienates his base by sarcasm.

Enough is enough.

This does of course not mean that I am capitulating to the Republicans only that someone else needs to carry the standard.
I was thinking he would be more Teddy Roosevelt and less Franklin Roosevelt...

We need ANDREW JACKSON!
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Either he has no backbone or he has been on the take from big banks from the very beginning. He has the control of congress the polls all show that the majority of americans were against tax cuts for the rich and he refuses to stand up to Republicans. He then alienates his base by sarcasm.

Enough is enough.

This does of course not mean that I am capitulating to the Republicans only that someone else needs to carry the standard.
As you know, I am certainly not a Democrat and I agee with you: he seems to have no backbone. I would love to think he is just compromising and trying to reach decisions that will plaese as many as possible. I don't think that is the entire case. I don't think he has a clue what he is doing or why.

Nita
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Michaux State Forest
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He has virtually carried forward everything that Bush left.

The wars in the middle east are still going and today the Bush tax cuts for the rich still continue.

Obama's base officially left him today. It is over. I doubt very seriously if he will get the democratic nomination.

He is toast. Maybe since he knows he will be leaving he will grow a pair.
I agree 100%, stick a fork in me- I'm done. I have supported Obama through it all but no more. He is an empty shirt, the man has no b@lls and has not stood up for one thing and yes, I am angry. We are still in the Middle East, we have no Ublic Option, and now the richest in America will continue to enjoy their tax cuts. I should have voted Repub. at least then I know what I'm getting. Bernie Sander's impassioned pleas certainly fell on deaf ears, pathetic. Bannana Republic here we come.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:41 PM
 
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The better question is, why do any liberals still like the man? Let's face it, he's a failure on ALL fronts. I wish it were more gratifying to say we told you so, but we told you so.

Hope!

Change!!

Let's all sing now... O-bahhhh-maa O-bahhhh-maa O-bahhhh-maa
LOL...so wait a minute...he's doing everything YOU want him to do, but he's a failure? This post is proof of how convoluted everything has become in politics.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:45 PM
 
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Really?

He sat in a racists', America-hating pastor's church for 20 years and yet people still claim he's not anti-American or a racist?

He pal'ed around with a known terrorist, Bill Ayers, and he's not anti-American?

He repeatedly makes comments about the "greed" of the private sector, limits their compensation, and he's not anti-private sector?

He has expanded the size and role of the public sector while doing nothing to aid the private sector, and he's not anti-free market?

He must be the Teflon President!
1. Wright isn't a racist. And his military service in 2 branches proves that he's not an America-hater.

2. "Pal'ed around?" What...you're channeling Palin now? Uh..no he didn't pal around with Bill Ayers.

3. He's right about private sector greed. Besides, doesn't look like the private sector is doing too bad, is it? Hell, they've never done better.

4. I agree about the expansion of the public sector...but WTH does that have to do with being anti-private sector? What..you want him to award some more contracts out to Halliburton? LOL..yea, probably.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I agree 100%, stick a fork in me- I'm done. I have supported Obama through it all but no more. He is an empty shirt, the man has no b@lls and has not stood up for one thing and yes, I am angry. We are still in the Middle East, we have no Ublic Option, and now the richest in America will continue to enjoy their tax cuts. I should have voted Repub. at least then I know what I'm getting. Bernie Sander's impassioned pleas certainly fell on deaf ears, pathetic. Bannana Republic here we come.

you got exactly what the left wanted

obama was and is a marxist..has always been

leftist, liberal, progressive,globaist, marxist, socialist, fascist...all the same

obama is smart, he understands that if you put a frog in boiling water it will jump out...but compramize and put a frog in warm water then slowly boil it, the frog will stay and cook



"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski

As an ardent admirer of Marx, Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) called his version of Marxist socialism "Fascism" Instead of nationalization--government ownership--of private business, Mussolini advocated government control of business via complete bureaucratic regulation.


""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini

We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them." lenin

""This is a form of Socialism known as fascism, and it will be the type of world government the power elite plans ultimately to bring about and control. In this government, the power elite will control politicians who will become government leaders who will promulgate laws, rules and regulations favorable to certain transnational corporations"""......Zbigniew Brzezinski advisor to carter, clinton and obama(Obama was a student of his at Columbia University).....""

"Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief."Zbigniew Brzezinski


"Marxism disseminated on the popular level in the form of Communism, represented a major advance in man's ability to conceptualize his relationship to his world." Zbigniew Brzezinski




no different than 1976

During the 1976 political campaign, Carter repeatedly told the nation that he was going to get rid of the Establishment Insiders if he became president. But when he took office, he promptly filled his Administration with members of the Council on Foreign Relations (284 to be exact) and The Trilateral Commission, the two most prominent insider organizations in America. Included in this list of members of The Trilateral Commission were Walter Mondale and Dr. Henry Kissinger.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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He has virtually carried forward everything that Bush left.

The wars in the middle east are still going and today the Bush tax cuts for the rich still continue.

Obama's base officially left him today. It is over. I doubt very seriously if he will get the democratic nomination.

He is toast. Maybe since he knows he will be leaving he will grow a pair.

1. Bush was a liberal

2. Obama is a marxist

3. Neither liberals nor marxists are held dear by republicans

4. There is no "tax cut". It is just keeping the rates the same

5. Obama broke the bank

6. Obama has failed to institute economic policy to restore prosperity


The only thing I agree with is that Obama will not be president in 2012. Like 2008, the presidency will go to whichever republican opposes him. The only two who could lose would be Palin and Gingrich.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:52 PM
 
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1. Bush was a liberal

2. Obama is a marxist

3. Neither liberals nor marxists are held dear by republicans

4. There is no "tax cut". It is just keeping the rates the same

5. Obama broke the bank

6. Obama has failed to institute economic policy to restore prosperity


The only thing I agree with is that Obama will not be president in 2012. Like 2008, the presidency will go to whichever republican opposes him. The only two who could lose would be Palin and Gingrich.
LOLOLOLOL @ Bush was a liberal!!

I swear, WHERE was all of this Conservative antipathy towards Bush when he was president??? I just gotta know because i find it completely astounding!! I damn near got into some fistfights for critisizing Bush, but now, i can't pay a conservative to say something nice about the man. You all thought he was Ronald Reagan Jr. until 2008, and now he's magically become Jerry Garcia?

ROFL....unreal.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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No, Obama was willing to extend the tax cuts for everyone but the upper 2% (millionaires and billionaires) but that wasn't good enough for the Republicans. After all, they must take care of their base. The disagreement ensued, and Obama, like the coward he is proving himself to be, capitulated with nary a whimper in protest.
The upper 2% are not all millionaires and billionaires.

And as I said, why punish the wealthy? They do provide the jobs.
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