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Old 12-09-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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I think the video makes it obvious that the man is guilty.
Funny how politics can even change what people see with their own eyes
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90 View Post
They love to twist the facts.

1. Not a young girl ( nice try by the OP )
Looked YOUNG to me.
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2. A known trouble maker with ties to radical left wing nutjob groups 3. She was there to cause trouble and or harm to the candidate.
PROVE IT
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4. She was not stomped on at all.
ARE YOU BLIND?
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5. Who knows what she was going to do knowing her past history and record.
IRRELEVANT - YOU CAN'T PUNISH SOMEONE FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET! THIS IS AMERICA AND WE HAVE RULES AND LAWS.
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6. Good thing they stopped her before she was able to get to the candidate and cause him or others harm.
AGAIN- STUPID TO DEFLECT BY BLAMING THE VICTIM. YOU ALSO THINK ALL RAPE VICTIMS WERE "ASKING FOR IT" I'LL BET
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7. Thank goodness they protected him from this psycho nut anti American radical left winger.
LET US ADD SLANDER AND LIBEL TO THE THINGS PROFIT SHOULD BE SUED FOR.
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Look at her history to see that she hates America and was there to cause trouble or hurt someone.
SO YOU ARE LOOKING TO TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTS OF THOSE WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:23 PM
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I'm seeing a lot of people defending this woman with regard to her eco-terror background with statements like, "she's innocent until proven guilty," and "she was only charged and hasn't been convicted [yet]".

Yet those very same people have already reached the conclusion that the accused in the case at hand is guilty.

I don't think I've ever seen a more obvious and transparent demonstration of hypocrisy in my several years here. What an amazing thread this is.

Carry on...
It's a little thing called video, maybe you have heard of it. When I see video of a guy stomping on someone's head while they are being held down, the presumption of innocence has been rendered moot.

Perhaps you could explain to me what her background has to do with the crime the guy committed? Are you trying to say that anyone that has ever been charged with a crime is fair game for beatings and assaults?

I have never seen so many people so willing to twist logic to avoid admitting that this particular teabagger is a criminal scumbag.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:24 PM
 
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I can't find anything in my copy of the Bill of Rights that says constitutional protections can be revoked if you alter your appearance or carry a sign without approved content. You must have a special tea party version.
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What in the world are you talking about? What does any of that have to do with the rights granted and protected by the 1st Amendment. I think you are more than just a little confused.
I'm not at all confused. The 1st amendment protects ones right to speech, no one stopped the woman from speech, or carrying her sign. It does not say you get to carry your sign where you want, when you want, regardless of other individuals rights.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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I'm not defending her, merely stating that according to the law, her background cannot be deemed by a judge or a jury as due cause for Proffit having a free pass if he indeed did use uneccessary force in attempting to restrain her.

I am hoping it will get into the intent of her being there after she has been caught lying about the case already on tape.

A third party has a right to step in an protect someone else so I guess we will see how the judge or jury see's this.

I still believe there was no intent to cause her harm.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:26 PM
 
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It's a little thing called video, maybe you have heard of it. When I see video of a guy stomping on someone's head while they are being held down, the presumption of innocence has been rendered moot.
I stopped here for the sake of accuracy. The guy didnt stop on anyones head.. If you keep talking about the video, then you would know this..
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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It's a little thing called video, maybe you have heard of it. When I see video of a guy stomping on someone's head while they are being held down, the presumption of innocence has been rendered moot.

Perhaps you could explain to me what her background has to do with the crime the guy committed? Are you trying to say that anyone that has ever been charged with a crime is fair game for beatings and assaults?

I have never seen so many people so willing to twist logic to avoid admitting that this particular teabagger is a criminal scumbag.
So now you are saying he is a criminal?

How, was he found guilty today or something we do not know?

Then you have the nerve to ask me to prove to you if the real criminal ( Soros puppet ) has a criminal record.

Amazing.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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I am hoping it will get into the intent of her being there after she has been caught lying about the case already on tape.

A third party has a right to step in an protect someone else so I guess we will see how the judge or jury see's this.

I still believe there was no intent to cause her harm.
That would pertain more to any charges filed against her in this matter, and there don't seem to have been any. If she had been charged with even something as small as trespass, intent would be a factor. Even more so if she had been found to have been an actual threat to Mr. Paul or anyone else there.

In these little assault cases, intent isn't relevant. They're usually pretty cut and dried.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: On Top
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A third party has a right to step in an protect someone else so I guess we will see how the judge or jury see's this
There were third parties restraining her, 3 men were holding her down when Profitt stomped her.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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It's a little thing called video, maybe you have heard of it. When I see video of a guy stomping on someone's head while they are being held down, the presumption of innocence has been rendered moot.

Perhaps you could explain to me what her background has to do with the crime the guy committed? Are you trying to say that anyone that has ever been charged with a crime is fair game for beatings and assaults?

I have never seen so many people so willing to twist logic to avoid admitting that this particular teabagger is a criminal scumbag.
That is not for you to decide.
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