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No. Turns out wrecking ball's daughter is not eligible for British citizenship.
my daughter, no ( or at least not automatic citizenship ). but what about the same scenario for countries with extended descent laws past the first generation ( i believe poland and greece have been mentioned ).
That makes Obama a foreigner, and clearly ineligible in reference to John Jay's origination of the natural born citizen clause.
but you're applying your definition of "foreigner" to john jay's letter, not jay's definition ( he never gives one ). nor does his letter offer his definition of NBC. also, as has been stated, it's a letter not a legal document.
my daughter, no ( or at least not automatic citizenship ). but what about the same scenario for countries with extended descent laws past the first generation ( i believe poland and greece have been mentioned ).
Typically, those foreign citizenships are extended only when the American-born person's forebears have not become naturalized U.S. citizens (naturalization would have required them to renounce and abjure any foreign allegiance ever held).
No. There is no U.S. law that requires anyone to forfeit any other citizenship at birth. In fact, the U.S. recognizes but does not recommend dual citizenship status.
And yet you are insisting that foreign law (in this case British) can require a natural born US citizen to forfeit their US citizenship status. You are arguing that foreign law is superior to American law... even on American soil. Last I looked, that was hardly the sort of position a true patriot would ever hold.
The complete idiocy of such a position (which is the one you explicitly hold) is that any foreign government...say, that of Hugo Chavez... could simply by passing a law declare all Americans to also be Venezuelan citizens at birth, and thus (by your anomalous definition) disqualify every living person from being president.
The nuttiness of that claim is the reason why no American judge, jurist, or Constitutional expert agrees with you.
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The State Dept confirms dual nationals owe allegiance to both the U.S. and the foreign country. That makes Obama a foreigner, and clearly ineligible in reference to John Jay's origination of the natural born citizen clause.
The State Department has also testified under oath in the case of Strunk v. The Department of State that Barack Obama is a natural born US citizen.
It appears that you are again alone in your wacky assertions that President Obama is a foreigner.
my daughter, no ( or at least not automatic citizenship ). but what about the same scenario for countries with extended descent laws past the first generation ( i believe poland and greece have been mentioned ).
Italy as well.
I am a natural born US citizen, exceeding even the most strict Birther definition of NBC... i.e. born on US soil to two American citizens.
Typically, those foreign citizenships are extended only when the American-born person's forebears have not become naturalized U.S. citizens (naturalization would have required them to renounce and abjure any foreign allegiance ever held).
And that happens all the time.
In my case, both my parents were born with dual citizenship before their own immigrant parents naturalized. Therefore, I too was a dual citizen at birth.
I am a natural born US citizen, exceeding even the most strict Birther definition of NBC... i.e. born on US soil to two American citizens.
And I was also an Italian citizen at birth.
You have no naturalized U.S. citizen forebears? They all remained non-U.S. citizens?
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