Relevant Questions About Obama's New 'Gay' Force (biased, money, government)
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Rock Hudson discovered his homosexuality in WW2 on a ship in the US Navy.
We only had two sex related incidents in barracks. One was a Warrant Officer who behaved inappropriately with subordinates and was discharged and another was a straight guy who liked whacking off at night.
Does anyone remember the reason why Clinton instituted DADT in the first place? From what I have read about it, DADT was instituted for the protection of homosexual service members.
As I've said on other threads I still have the same question. What does it mean to serve "openly"?
The answers I've received are, "Gays will be able to invite their partner to official events, can receive benefits without fear of being removed from service" etc etc etc.
If people think that problems won't come from this repeal they are delusional.
But time will tell...
Answer me this (it's been asked countless times on these boards to proponents of keeping the ban on homosexuals in place, but they never answer):
37 countries have integrated open homosexuals into their militaries over the past 35 years without separate accommodations (Israel, The UK, Russia, the Netherlands, South Africa, Peru etc, etc, etc). In those countries, there have been no widespread or major problems whatsoever. Why do you think there will be problems in the US when all the available examples we have to study have shown there to be none?
Answer me this (it's been asked countless times on these boards to proponents of keeping the ban on homosexuals in place, but they never answer):
37 countries have integrated open homosexuals into their militaries over the past 35 years without separate accommodations (Israel, The UK, Russia, the Netherlands, South Africa, Peru etc, etc, etc). In those countries, there have been no problems whatsoever. Why do you think there will be problems in the US when all the available examples we have to study have shown there to be none?
It appears only ignorant/uninformed conservatives believe there will be problems.
I have a question. Is THIS guy (Townhall's Kevin McCullough), one of the "straight men" who believe that just because they have a willie every gay man wants to jump them and have sex?
Your 26 years came long after my three years so maybe nobody knew back when I was there. I do think that gays were deeper in the closet in the mid and late 50s. I did wear the uniform and did not know one of those people was around me so maybe I am really ignorant.
I have worked with and taught a number of gay people in my day and never knew it till they "came out". Some of them were obvious but not most.
I wonder if that over 60% of the fighters among the Marines in Afghanistan who didn't want that law passed were all haters and homophobes. Somehow I really don't think they were.
You had to post a small minority of the military that did support the ban.
Marine Infantry
That's how you rationalize your bigotry.
Well you know what? They can take leave if they don't like it.
As I've said on other threads I still have the same question. What does it mean to serve "openly"?
It simply means they don't have to hide the fact that they are gay. It doesn't mean they're going to be running or prancing around proclaiming their 'gayness' - just that they no longer have to worry about being discharged if someone learns that they are gay.
Rock Hudson discovered his homosexuality in WW2 on a ship in the US Navy.
We only had two sex related incidents in barracks. One was a Warrant Officer who behaved inappropriately with subordinates and was discharged and another was a straight guy who liked whacking off at night.
In the units i have been in, we had gay and lesbian officers and senior enlisted discover being engaged in sex acts with lower enlisted personnel. We also had a very large lesbian group of drill instructors, lead by a lesbian col, who were preying on the female recruits. The straight women DIs were warned that their careers would be ended if they said anything.
Answer me this (it's been asked countless times on these boards to proponents of keeping the ban on homosexuals in place, but they never answer):
37 countries have integrated open homosexuals into their militaries over the past 35 years without separate accommodations (Israel, The UK, Russia, the Netherlands, South Africa, Peru etc, etc, etc). In those countries, there have been no problems whatsoever. Why do you think there will be problems in the US when all the available examples we have to study have shown there to be none?
Only for 35 years? Since 1976? Isn't that around the time when the "gay movement" really became vocal?
I have said time and time again. Gays have always been in the military so what's the issue with the "serve openly"? What does it mean to serve "openly"? Different nations have different customs and regulations with regard to their military.
One thing that you are probably aware of is that when you sign up for military service your body, mind and soul belongs to the government.
What's to say that because gays will be allowed to serve "openly" without fear of being discharged for being gay, that the government won't use this as an opportunity to study the behavior of homosexuals? They perform all sorts of mental evaluations on troops throughout their military service. It is quite possible that from allowing gays to serve "openly", the military will study the behavior of homosexuals, and the information they gather will likely be used to determine the nature of homosexuality as it relates to all gays in military service and society.
Time will tell what happens as a result of this repeal.
I know personally someone who is ex-military who volunteers at the VA. There have been roundtable discussions with some men back from combat at the VA who disagree with the repeal and were quite vocal about how disgusted they were with the possibility that DADT would be repealed.
I know personally someone who is ex-military who volunteers at the VA. There have been roundtable discussions with some men back from combat at the VA who disagree with the repeal and were quite vocal about how disgusted they were with the possibility that DADT would be repealed.
Hearsay.
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