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Even in bowling alleys, bars, and any other place where your expelled smoke full of carcinogens reaches my olfactory apparatus.
In other words, your freedom ends where my nose begins.
I might just start bowling again...
Well, that would depend on what the operator of said bowling alley found more profitable.
Smokers or nonsmokers. You're welcome to start up a competing business that doesn't allow smoking down the street from somewhere that does, and come back and tell us which is more profitable.
Business is about profit, first and foremost, and they only obey laws preventing them from profit with the deepest reticence.
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Smoking is such a disgusting habit by itself but when I see people throwing their butts out of their vehicles or just on the ground it really annoys me.Their is no excuse or defense for it,the enviroment is not an ashtray.Their should be a minimum $100 fine to enforce to help stop people from doing it,it could be a good revenue generator and the money could go towards helping prevent young people from smoking.Smokers should have no rights and public smoking should be banned as well and the same fine for smoking in public.If they want to continue their bad habit smokers should be responsible and use an ashtray and keep it to yourself. Yes, good people can have bad habits like smoking and most people know one but it is time for smokers to be responsible for their poison. It can only help, and i'm tired of seeing people litter with their cancer butts.
Bitter little fascist.
Actually I dislike all litterbugs, including smokers who litter. But your comments are laughable.
Even in bowling alleys, bars, and any other place where your expelled smoke full of carcinogens reaches my olfactory apparatus.
In other words, your freedom ends where my nose begins.
I might just start bowling again...
Hmmmmm.... and I suppose your freedom ends where my nose begins. So keep off the highways unless you absolutely have to. I would hate to get run over by you while you are out on a Sunday drive .... after all, your freedom does not extend to endangering me while I'm on my bicycle.
Oh, and by the way, just stay 15 feet away from me while my friends relax and smoke and your uptight nose will be fine.
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Please extinguish your cigarettes and allow the smoke to clear so that you can clearly see the title of this thread. This is a thread about smoking being a disgusting habit. Is it true that smoking likely has adverse effects to pretty much everyone who makes it a continuous habit? Yes. Do these people put themselves in a position to develop all sorts of long lasting health problems? Absolutely. Does secondhand smoke directly effect the health of others who are exposed? Yes. Smoking related deaths are well over that of distracted driving or unprotected sex.
Smoking is a disgusting habit. Comparing talking on a cell phone while driving to inhaling rat poison and tar is outrageous. Please don't try to justify smoking by using asinine analogies.
i would rather sit in a bar for ten years with a hundred smokers every friday night for 8 hours,>> than meet up with one moron on a highway talking on a cellphone or texting while driving if a moron bumps into me with a cig, no big deal,, small burn thats about it..
Well, that would depend on what the operator of said bowling alley found more profitable.
Smokers or nonsmokers. You're welcome to start up a competing business that doesn't allow smoking down the street from somewhere that does, and come back and tell us which is more profitable.
Business is about profit, first and foremost, and they only obey laws preventing them from profit with the deepest reticence.
Not in here in Washington state. Because of an initiative passed overwhelmingly about 5 years ago, it is illegal to smoke in public places, including bowling alleys. The nicotine addict must go outside for their fix, but must remain at least 25 feet away from the place of business.
It's a good law. And after some initial whining from business owners about how they were going to lose money, things have pretty much returned to normal.
What makes me laugh is the same people who want to ban tobacco want to legalize marijuana. Ask any stoner the ritual after partaking is a cigarette afterward because it feels better that way. This whole only 25% or less of Americans smoke is more BS. A large number of people smoke when they drink or partake of cannibas. FACT. They may not smoke at other times because contrary to what you have heard in our not every person who smokes is addicted to smoking. Yes Virginia some people may smoke and never be addicted. I would say if you count all the non smoking men who enjoy a cigar in Vegas at the poker table that is about 40% of Americans who are smokers. It is just recreational smoking is not counted in those numbers just those with habits.
All I know is I havent been to a bar since smoking was ended. As I do not drink usually if I cannot have a cigarette when I am sitting at the bar the bar becomes boring. When Ohio passed the idiotic full smoking ban because people mixed up issues 4 and 5 most of the bars around are closing or have no business. We had a large bowling alley here very famous that shut down because after the smoking ban most of the hardcore bowlers couldnt bowl anymore because they liked to have a cigarette while they bowled.
No wonder we elected Obama. Americans are MORONS. Bring on the NANNY STATE and SOYLENT GREEN with the Death Panels. Its here folks.
Not in here in Washington state. Because of an initiative passed overwhelmingly about 5 years ago, it is illegal to smoke in public places, including bowling alleys. The nicotine addict must go outside for their fix, but must remain at least 25 feet away from the place of business.
Oh no, I completely understand this is how it is. That's why I said that they only obey laws that cut into their profits with the deepest reticence. They do it, but they ain't happy.
Like I said, put it up to the free market, one open for smokers, one open for nonsmokers, see which does better.
Smoking is such a disgusting habit by itself but when I see people throwing their butts out of their vehicles or just on the ground it really annoys me.Their is no excuse or defense for it,the enviroment is not an ashtray.Their should be a minimum $100 fine to enforce to help stop people from doing it,it could be a good revenue generator and the money could go towards helping prevent young people from smoking.Smokers should have no rights and public smoking should be banned as well and the same fine for smoking in public.If they want to continue their bad habit smokers should be responsible and use an ashtray and keep it to yourself. Yes, good people can have bad habits like smoking and most people know one but it is time for smokers to be responsible for their poison. It can only help, and i'm tired of seeing people litter with their cancer butts.
Just as soon as FAT people lose all their rights for being a burden on the rest of of us, not to mention how disgusting it is to look at them. Is that your sort of thinking? Your rights, as with everyone, ends at the tip of your nose, keep out of buisness that is none of your affair.
Casper
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