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Old 12-24-2010, 07:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
How the heck do we as individuals, in a nation originally based on individual rights, each with individual needs, overcome the collective power push?
They say, there is power in numbers.

There is going to come a day, you as an individual, won't be able to do much without asking the collective if you can do it.
That day, came and went, in 1935.
...

Here's a logic puzzle that might explain "how" they succeeded.

Pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, government has two jobs:
1. secure rights, and
2. govern those who consent.

Among those rights are life, liberty, and property ownership. Government didn't give those rights to us, our Creator did.

All government offered to do, was help secure those rights.

But CONSENT waives job #1.

Proof:
Militia duty - the legal obligation to train, fight and die, on command.
It's been part of the law, since 1777. (See: Articles of Confederation).

So, in the DoI, governments are created to SECURE our right to life, but government can take away the right to life, liberty, etc, of the militiamen.

The Supreme Court has held, in Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328 (1916), that the Thirteenth Amendment does not prohibit "enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the state, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc." In Selective Draft Law Cases, 245 U.S. 366 (1918), the Supreme Court ruled that the military draft was not "involuntary servitude".

[nit picking flag on]
We know that the 13th amendment abolished involuntary servitude in the States united. But the Supreme court ruled that militia duty / conscription was NOT involuntary servitude.
Since the government can and will prosecute those who do not obey, it is compulsory.
The question is: how and when did "We" consent to make that duty "voluntary servitude".

The answer can be found in the definition of the parties so obligated to perform.
Title 10 USC Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, CITIZENS of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Title 50 USC Sec. 453. Registration (Selective Service)
(a)...it shall be the duty of every male CITIZEN of the United States, and every other male person RESIDING in the United States, who, on the day or days fixed for the first or any subsequent registration, is between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six, to present himself for and submit to registration at such time or times and place or places, and in such manner, as shall be determined by proclamation of the President and by rules and regulations prescribed hereunder.

Art. 1, Sec. 8, USCON
Congress shall have power ... To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

Articles of Confederation, VI.
...every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage.
If citizenship is a voluntary assertion, and an acceptance of the civic duties, then it is NOT involuntary servitude.

But if citizenship is IMPOSED at birth, then all civic duties are involuntary servitude.

So the question you need to answer: is citizenship imposed at birth in the United States of America?

No.
But most Americans have never been informed of that fact.

So in answer to the original question : how does an individual overcome the power of the majority?
The answer is : stop consenting.
Withdraw consent.
Restore one's status at law.

To what?
An American national / free inhabitant - one of the sovereign people who are not one of the subject citizenry.

REPUBLICAN (form of) GOVERNMENT. One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, ... directly, ...
In re Duncan, 139 U.S. 449, 11 S.Ct. 573, 35 L.Ed. 219;
Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 22 L.Ed. 627.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary

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